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Old 04-29-2006, 06:02 PM
mterry mterry is offline
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Default adjusting to passiveness of live play

I recently played less than great against some terrible players at 10/20 foxwoods, and I think I might be adjusting poorly from my usual 5/10(6max) online mentality. In particular, I'm calling people down too much in big pots with A high, and peeling turns, etc. in big pots with weaker holdings.

Do people generally have a tough time adjusting to passive, live play, after playing mostly online?
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

Yes, I've have the same problem. You gotta force yourself to take some of those free cards. If hu or something keep being aggressive but multi way you must slow down.
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

Agressiveness pays off in live play. Just dont be a calling station. Btw, check the psych forum above this one. Probably will get better responses there. Lots of wackjobs in that forum [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

In some sense, otherwise skilled players' inability to adjust to loose-passive games is what causes the myth that a game can be "too good to beat." (See e.g. Miller's GSIH.)

I'm not surprised to hear that you're finding live 10/20 much different than online 5/10, even though I don't play either of those limits.
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

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Lots of wackjobs in that forum [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Do wackjobs give good psychological advice?
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

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Lots of wackjobs in that forum [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Do wackjobs give good psychological advice?

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Believe it or not, yeah, haha. Actually, it's a good forum.
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Old 04-30-2006, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

No. But if you raised every time you'd normally call online you wouldn't be making too much of an error.
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Old 05-01-2006, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

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In particular, I'm calling people down too much in big pots with A high,


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I think I have isolated the problem.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: adjusting to passiveness of live play

In general, when somebody raises you on the turn in your live game, they've got top pair crushed. Obviously, that's frequently not the case in your 5/10 six-max game.

There will be fewer bluffs and semi-bluffs in your live game (player dependent, of course). If you make the river value bets that you are accustomed to making in your online games, you will often be surprised to see players just calling down with hands that have you beaten.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:41 PM
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If you make the river value bets that you are accustomed to making in your online games, you will often be surprised to see players just calling down with hands that have you beaten.

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I'm not sure about higher limits, but certainly in a 4-8 game you should make those river value bets because they will call you down regardless. Very often if you bet they call (not fold or raise). If you check they often check it thru if you're ahead but bet when you're behind.
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