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[PokerBob]

bellagio 100/200
a very good player and i disagreed here.

villain here i don't know too much about, although earlier he 3bet a MP open and then couldnt beat 65 on a board of KQ762.

i open in ep with KK, villan calls in sb, bb calls.

flop 752r
sb bets, bb folds, i raise, sb calls.

turn: 6
sb check, i bet, sb calls.

river: 3
sb checks, i..............

[New2NL]

Bet??? Fold to raise

[Scary_Tiger]

Bet/call and bring back a better read next time.

Also, describing the previous hand and what you know about MP more fully would help too.

[New2NL]

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Bet/call and bring back a better read next time.

Also, describing the previous hand and what you know about MP more fully would help too.

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Is it really a clear call? the bet is easy. But does he raise this with something you beat? if so why would he not do it on the turn?

[bicyclekick]

It depends what kind of person he/she is in my opinion. There are a lot of vegas people that will almost never raise you on a bluff here, but also given you're going to be there for a number of days in a row, often playing with the same people, call now and work from there. In a vacuum it's to a fold, but it's not really a big deal and seeing showdowns in those types of games is good.

I mean, ace 4 or pocket 4's seems like hands these guys would play like that and they are generally not the type to all of a sudden get creative on the river if they had something like T8 and picked up a bigger draw on the turn.

Still though, should call this time.

[MitchL]

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It depends what kind of person he/she is in my opinion. There are a lot of vegas people that will almost never raise you on a bluff here, but also given you're going to be there for a number of days in a row, often playing with the same people, call now and work from there. In a vacuum it's to a fold, but it's not really a big deal and seeing showdowns in those types of games is good.

I mean, ace 4 or pocket 4's seems like hands these guys would play like that and they are generally not the type to all of a sudden get creative on the river if they had something like T8 and picked up a bigger draw on the turn.

Still though, should call this time.

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Never played this high in Vegas, but have played against many of the 100 regular locals in the 30 game and you are right they do not get creative at all on the river. I would bet this 100% of the time against a Vegas regular-non 2+2er(wouldnt be suprised if he showed up w/AK, 88, 99 etc.). I would also pay off a raise for info purposes. Woudnt read to much into the prior hand where he couldnt beat a 6. Prob 55 or AJs.

[mike l.]

"There are a lot of vegas people that will almost never raise you on a bluff here,"

how do we know he's a vegas person?

[floppynuts92]

Id bet out.

[AlexSem]

While I'm really confused what he's holding... I think you still gotta bet it out. You'll be shown some lame A7 often enough.

[mike l.]

lol obviously you have to bet, i doubt anyone would argue that. the question is whether to call a c/r. it's close but calling is better than folding. people do weird stuff sometimes, esp. unknowns in that game around wsop time.