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Old 06-07-2006, 09:21 PM
JoshNjuice JoshNjuice is offline
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Default Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

Villain has been in a lot of pots. He's obviously limping constantly because he has a lot of chips. He doesn't seem particularly passive or aggressive.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (Villain)/ (t28620)</font>
UTG+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t4765)</font>
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, Hero ???

I realize this probably seems standard to everyone. I'm going to ask for input on every street, but I want to get a consensus on what my play should be on the flop before I continue.

Thanks!

JoshNjuice
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Bungler Bungler is offline
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

I would just make a standard continuation bet of about 1200 and hope he makes a move at the pot. If called, my money is going in on the turn.
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:22 PM
JoshNjuice JoshNjuice is offline
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

So I made a standard c-bet on the flop (just over half pot).

Does anyone have a problem with this bet? What action would be appropriate on the turn? Please note the relavant stacks. Stack-sizes gave me trouble on this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t28620)</font>
UTG+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t4765)</font>
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1000</font>, UTG calls t1000.

Turn: (t3900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero ???

I'll share my thinking on the turn after I get some replies. I'd like to see if I'm thinking correctly throughout the hand.

Thanks

JoshNjuice
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

Check behind, call any river bet b/c you are pot committed but if he doesn't bet I wouldn't either.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

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Check behind, call any river bet b/c you are pot committed but if he doesn't bet I wouldn't either.

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Why? Any hand that beats you will get it in, but he will surely call you with weaker hands. I would bet bigger on the flop and I would bet now and if I checked now I would push a blank river if checked to.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

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Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

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Ditto. Gotta price out the draws on the flop.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:46 PM
JoshNjuice JoshNjuice is offline
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

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Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

[/ QUOTE ]

How much bigger?
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

At first glance I'd bet around ~1500. Maybe even overbet the pot against a loose villain, commit him with top pair if he has it.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:52 PM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

Pot-size the flop.

As played, check behind turn and take off the fourth heart. I'm never pushing turn here. He'll fold worse, instacall better and you need a heart/jack river. You know he doesn't have the nut flush, and he knows he doesn't.

If he checks river, check behind a non-heart/jack. Same reasoning as turn. I'm happy with the size of this pot here.
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