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JoshNjuice 06-07-2006 09:21 PM

Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
Villain has been in a lot of pots. He's obviously limping constantly because he has a lot of chips. He doesn't seem particularly passive or aggressive.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (Villain)/ (t28620)</font>
UTG+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t4765)</font>
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, Hero ???

I realize this probably seems standard to everyone. I'm going to ask for input on every street, but I want to get a consensus on what my play should be on the flop before I continue.

Thanks!

JoshNjuice

Bungler 06-07-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
I would just make a standard continuation bet of about 1200 and hope he makes a move at the pot. If called, my money is going in on the turn.

JoshNjuice 06-08-2006 06:22 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
So I made a standard c-bet on the flop (just over half pot).

Does anyone have a problem with this bet? What action would be appropriate on the turn? Please note the relavant stacks. Stack-sizes gave me trouble on this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t28620)</font>
UTG+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t4765)</font>
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1000</font>, UTG calls t1000.

Turn: (t3900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero ???

I'll share my thinking on the turn after I get some replies. I'd like to see if I'm thinking correctly throughout the hand.

Thanks

JoshNjuice

tubasteve 06-08-2006 06:31 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
Check behind, call any river bet b/c you are pot committed but if he doesn't bet I wouldn't either.

RoundTower 06-08-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
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Check behind, call any river bet b/c you are pot committed but if he doesn't bet I wouldn't either.

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Why? Any hand that beats you will get it in, but he will surely call you with weaker hands. I would bet bigger on the flop and I would bet now and if I checked now I would push a blank river if checked to.

nath 06-08-2006 07:39 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

FortunaMaximus 06-08-2006 07:41 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
[ QUOTE ]
Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

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Ditto. Gotta price out the draws on the flop.

JoshNjuice 06-08-2006 07:46 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
[ QUOTE ]
Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

[/ QUOTE ]

How much bigger?

nath 06-08-2006 07:48 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
At first glance I'd bet around ~1500. Maybe even overbet the pot against a loose villain, commit him with top pair if he has it.

FortunaMaximus 06-08-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player
 
Pot-size the flop.

As played, check behind turn and take off the fourth heart. I'm never pushing turn here. He'll fold worse, instacall better and you need a heart/jack river. You know he doesn't have the nut flush, and he knows he doesn't.

If he checks river, check behind a non-heart/jack. Same reasoning as turn. I'm happy with the size of this pot here.


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