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Old 05-01-2006, 02:59 PM
Shalara Shalara is offline
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Default Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

This one is from daytime last week. Not a particularly good table, kinda weak tight for the most part. I'm just drinking coffee, enjoying the silence, and not particularly caring that the table sucks. The others have busted out or left, and I've got a good feel for these guys, and I'm folding laundry, which makes it harder to concentrate & get fresh reads, so I'm content to sit here til I'm done.

What I recall about this table was that a couple players got fairly aggressive if they got hands, but mostly the table was weak tight. They mostly fold to blank-board bets, so I stole a couple little pots here and there, but not very much.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Shalara is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Shalara calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

UTG was one of the aggros, so I felt like I'd at least get action if I flopped a set. I called. Alas, the other aggro behind me folded.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets</font>, Shalara ???

<font color="purple">I flopped it, yay! And *both* blinds are in, bonus! Now what?

Call or raise? The blinds are kinda weak tight. They *might* call with overs. They certainly won't call a raise without a flush draw or a very strong hand. In no fold-em, I raise this all day long. But this is not no fold-em. For the record, they seem to call UTG's bets more with less, I suspect because he bets more. Of course, they might fold to a bet anyway on that board. So maybe I *should* raise. Hmmm...
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

easy raise.
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:04 PM
car ramrod car ramrod is offline
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

raise, if they have a draw they are calling 2 bets. Sets are the hardest hand to put someone on, so it is usually better to just bet/raise them. If they don't have a hand you won't get money from them anyway, especially weak tight players as you describe here.
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

There are two many opponents and the blinds could be holding any 2. You have to raise.
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

Raise. Your hand is very vulnerable to the flush and gutshots.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:05 PM
Hielko Hielko is offline
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

Why raise "because our hand is very vulnerable to the flush"? A flushdraw is folding like never here, but the other people in the hand probably drawing very slim. The flushdraw also has a high equity on the flop, so he doesn't really mind paying 2 bets. Why not raise the (safe) turn? This lets the (possible) flushdraw pay a lot more since 2 SB with 33% equity or 2 BB with 17% equity or so is a huge difference.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

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Why not raise the (safe) turn?

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b/c we can't be sure someone will bet the turn, or the flop for that matter.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Set in EP, mostly weak-tight table

Raise... you might not get a spade draw to fold but you can cut the odds down so they are unprofitable... then you win
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Old 05-01-2006, 07:20 PM
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easy raise.

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