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Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
BB is unknown, only notable so far for being obviously tighter than most guys at this site. SB is very loose.
Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.50/$1 4 players Converter Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Yeah, I should've capped the flop. My thinking at the time was that there were a lot of turn cards I needed to dodge. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 3 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero ? Raise and bet the river, raise and call down if he 3-bets or just call down? |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
I don't see a reason (yet) to believe your hand is not good.
Raise and bet, only call down if he indeed 3-bets... |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
I cap the flop. I could see calling and raising the turn if it was HU, but if SB is going to meander along I want to make sure I get value from him.
As played I raise the turn and cap if villain 3-bets. He has a flopped straight or a flush much more often than a better boat or a straight flush. |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
Grunge:
raise and call down if he 3-bets or just I think he would have raised if he had better than tens. Bet it. This is were you make your money I think. Betting strong with your best hands. |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
Cap the the flop on that super drawy board. The 3-bet is often a free card play. (the hand will also play differently)
There are a ton of hands that gives action that we beat on the turn so I'm capping, and calling or bet/call river. [i]lollosetostraightflushaments |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
Posting blind: pretty likely.
Having read your post: YOU raised pf, nobody else did. wtf are you afraid of? QQ/JJ/AsKs are all off the board, the only thing you can possibly be afraid of is QJ/QT, and there's no reason to think those are out. Raise/cap the turn; your read indicates that you're getting overlay from SB, and BB is 2:1 to have AQ/KQ:QJ/QT, and that doesn't include other Qx (x=9,8 possible) hands. If you've been aggressive on the turn and he still leads the river, just call. (This looks like the start of a BBV thread...ace of spades on the river?) |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
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the only thing you can possibly be afraid of is QJ/QT, and there's no reason to think those are out. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the flop 3-bet is a reason to suspect those hands? |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
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[ QUOTE ] the only thing you can possibly be afraid of is QJ/QT, and there's no reason to think those are out. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the flop 3-bet is a reason to suspect those hands? [/ QUOTE ] Given that there are 12 combos of those and 14467854 combos of XsXs/QX/AK/89/etc, no, I know it's out there, but I don't worry about it. |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
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[ QUOTE ] the only thing you can possibly be afraid of is QJ/QT, and there's no reason to think those are out. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the flop 3-bet is a reason to suspect those hands? [/ QUOTE ] You should suspect them. But with 2 queens and a jack gone, they're much less likely. You can also expect AK, K9, 98, or many combos with 2 spades. Since you have to discount QJ and QT (only 6 possible combos of each) you're still good way more than enough to raise the turn bet. edit: Bozlax beat me by < 1 min gah. |
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Re: Boated up, but am I best? (shorthanded)
:g:
My aggression goes up quite a bit shorthanded so i would play it like this. I would raise these preflop. cap flop like you said. Raise turn bet river or Cap if he 3-bets and bet the river if checked to and call if he still bets out after cap. |
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