(NL 10) - KK, 2 Aces on flop

Kornspitz · #1 10-13-2007, 04:02 PM

No special reads after ~15 hands against villain.

I got no idea what my plan here should be. Should I donk, c/r or c/c even c/f here? I think his range here is AK/QQ in first place, but what is more likely, and how do i find out?
If I bet and he 3bets, do I fold?
Does he give up QQ here?


Party Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $23.35
UTG: $1.65
UTG+1: $7.19
Hero (MP): $15.26
CO: $8.31
BTN: $9.90
SB: $1.74

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, BTN raises to $1.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.30, CO folds

Flop: ($3.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.10, Hero ?

TheBad · #2 10-13-2007, 05:49 PM

Re-raise PF. I raise the flop and probably fold to further resistance.

PokerFun007 · #3 10-13-2007, 06:32 PM

That's a pretty timid bet from him here on the flop. I'd raise it up to 6 here and see how he responds.

If the hand continued, post the next moves...

Kornspitz · #4 10-13-2007, 06:56 PM

Thanks.

But if I raise, I'm comitted, am I not?
He has about 6$ left, so if I raise to 6$ and he pushes it's only 2$ for me.

Does he have QQ or even worse here often enough to make me wanna play for my stack?

What do you think about c/f the flop? Seems like the cheaper way to find out if he has an ace.

RoyalFarmer · #5 10-13-2007, 07:20 PM

C/f the Flop???

What do you find out with that play? Nothing at all.

Go broke and feel good. He either has an ace or he is beat.
A donk might be funny, since he could reraise with JJ or QQ, because he wants to find out if you really got an ace and almost commit himself.
If you check-raise he might fold TT-QQ, but if you donk he can't fold them IMO.

Anyway, 4bet preflop.

Kornspitz · #6 10-13-2007, 07:40 PM

lol sorry, meant b/f the flop [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

chip-star · #7 10-13-2007, 08:16 PM

Reraise.

His flop bet is pretty weak given his preflop 3bet and if he had an aces he'd probably bet more because of the flushdraw.

His bet looks like it's an amount that dosnt want to seem like it's near enough the same size bet as his preflop 3bet when in reality it pretty much is, he wants to look strong when really he is weak and dosnt want to commit too much to the pot with his bet.

Your also much more likely to be up against QQ than AK because you hold two of the kings yourself making it more unlikely he has another.

By the way he's played it i probably reraise to $5.50 and call a push or push the turn if called.

Kornspitz · #8 10-13-2007, 08:37 PM

Ok, thanks guys. I reraised, and he pushed with AK.

speedle · #9 10-13-2007, 08:54 PM

Drawing dead.. it happens.

I had a similar situation today... pretty much the same board (i think 6AA) and i reraised the guy pre flop. He bet half the pot, i raised, he pushed and i called. The guy mucked QQ. I only called because i had a specific note on him, otherwise i would have folded.

Given how you played, it's imperative you raise the flop.