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Old 02-01-2007, 05:26 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

I like it, he probably doesn't flat call AK.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

I do agree that it is very close in any case
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Old 02-01-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

13/10/22 seems really weird. i suppose 400 hands is not enough for agg factor to be very realiable, correct? i was never a big PT user.

thus, the typical hand a dude like this calls here is a pocket pair, and his play on the flop is consistent with a set. i would be somewhat scared he is just a bad nit who can overplay TPTK (though we expect him to reraise AK preflop, its somewhat possible he'd call) i think its safe to fold.
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Old 02-01-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

I'm turned on by nits. This hand arouses me like Micon does Brandi.
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Old 02-01-2007, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

judging by ur reads of villain i think u are right in making this fold... sumtimes u just gotta go with instincts that ur beat. with that being said there are very very very few players u should consider this for, and even against this guy i wouldn't make it a habit b/c he will then be able to exploit your weak play. but there is a very gud chance you are right this time.
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

I like it in this situation. I couldn't see villain checking turn ever, so calling the flop is basically playing for stacks as turn and river bets will be big (3betting flop is of course out of the question though).
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

how much are you open raising/c-betting?


i think folding here even vs most nits is very, very weak.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

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Old 02-01-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

The flop is so dry, he can't have 2 pairs here, so it's basically 33/77/KK or AK/KQ.

Good players generally don't check raise sets on such dry flops, cause you can't disguise your set as some sort of draw and since the flop is K high, you migh fold JJ/QQ to a check-raise...so, basically this is a pretty stupid move by him if he has a set- you only call here w your own set,AA or AK - i wonder what your image is, if your raising range consists of those hands only - i'd fold cause he puts you on a big hand and still does it, if you been raising a lot, i call flop for sure, if continues with the agression, i might not go broke here, but it depends...

In any case if you are playing loose, he might do it w a hand that you crush or even with air, cause he thinks there is a good chance you missed the flop and wants to steal the pot.
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:30 AM
J. Sawyer J. Sawyer is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 i make a ridiculous fold

over how many hands did the 3bets happen? and what is your image. I think if your image is at all aggro, which it probably is if you have 3-bet him 3 times (depending on length of current session together) i really hate a fold, obv pushing you might make him fold AK which is really bad but I almost never fold here.

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