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Old 07-27-2007, 03:08 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

Up until now, I have been using the standard ones (Hands, VPIP, PF Raise %, AF), and I am looking to add some more to have some more information available on my opponents.

Which stats beyond the standard ones do you think are particularly useful, and why? Maybe the top three or four that you use?
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

WTSD, W$SD, cbet%, fold to cbet%, call cbet%, fold to river bet%
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

I have a 4x2 overlay.

VPIP -- PFR -- AF -- Hands
% Cbets -- %Fold to Cbet -- %WSD -- $WSD

Cbets and fold to cbet let me know what to do on the flop, %WSD and $WSD tell me if villain likes to chase.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

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WTSD, W$SD, cbet%, fold to cbet%, call cbet%, fold to river bet%

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Would you mind briefly explaining how you use these to help your decisions? I'm kind of new to this whole stats thing...
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:18 PM
DaycareInferno DaycareInferno is offline
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

i would think that the showdown numbers could be really deceptive over a small/medium sample size.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

I overlay VPIP, PFR, AF, Fold to C-bet & how often THEY C-bet. Everything else I just look at by clicking on the name.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

i totally stopped using PA HUD, decreased the number of tables im playing and went up in limit with the same BR i might add, so im playing 1-3 tables instead of 4-8 and play by feel instead of by the book, great results have followed

ALSO i run hot
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:29 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

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Everything else I just look at by clicking on the name.

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I forgot that you can do that. I need to do that more.


And thanks everyone for your responses.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

fold to cbet and cbet %, also attempts to steal but you need a decent sample size for these
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Which PAHud stats are useful beyond the standard ones?

Looks like this:

V$ PR TA
AS CBF HD
FA TA RA


First row are the standard stats.
Second row we have AS (attempted to steal blinds) as an indicator of positional awareness. CBF (fold to continuation bet) has quite obvious uses, since you can see how likely your cbets are going to succeed. I think this is especially helpful in multiway pots, where you have to be a more careful with your cbets. HD is the number of hands, which is important to know to what extent you can rely on your stats.
Third row is Aggression Factor by street. It took some time to get used to it, but now I use it as a general measure on how much respect I have to give my opponents bets/raises. On top of that it makes planning a hand in advance a bit easier. After the flop you know when your opponents are most likely to bet or call. I think this can be great information if you couple it with the notes you take on your opponents.
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