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Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
Newhizzle and BUTCH ACIDY had been going at it for a very large number of hours before this hand occurred. I am a low limit player and was curious as to the logic behind the turn in this hand. Is it possible that Newhizzle folds to a turn cap in this situation? Is it worth going for a river/check raise instead of a turn cap + lead out?
PokerStars Game #10194547252: Hold'em Limit ($500/$1000) - 2007/05/31 - 01:57:19 (ET) Table 'Buda' 10-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 3: newhizzle ($79849 in chips) Seat 4: BUTCH ACIDY ($204187 in chips) newhizzle: posts small blind $250 BUTCH ACIDY: posts big blind $500 *** HOLE CARDS *** newhizzle: raises $500 to $1000 BUTCH ACIDY: calls $500 *** FLOP *** [5c 8c 9c] BUTCH ACIDY: checks newhizzle: bets $500 BUTCH ACIDY: raises $500 to $1000 newhizzle: raises $500 to $1500 BUTCH ACIDY: calls $500 *** TURN *** [5c 8c 9c] [Jh] BUTCH ACIDY: checks newhizzle: bets $1000 BUTCH ACIDY: raises $1000 to $2000 newhizzle: raises $1000 to $3000 BUTCH ACIDY: calls $1000 *** RIVER *** [5c 8c 9c Jh] [As] BUTCH ACIDY: checks newhizzle: checks *** SHOW DOWN *** BUTCH ACIDY: shows [2c Jc] (a flush, Jack high) newhizzle: mucks hand BUTCH ACIDY collected $10998 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $11000 | Rake $2 Board [5c 8c 9c Jh As] Seat 3: newhizzle (button) (small blind) mucked Seat 4: BUTCH ACIDY (big blind) showed [2c Jc] and won ($10998) with a flush, Jack high |
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
I think Cassidy is simply too worried that he's behind to put additional action in.
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
If Acidy was indeed going for a river checkraise, it is not necessarily because he felt newhizzle would fold to a turn cap. If the river is a club or pairs the board, he can choose to check/call. This might be a good play if he thinks newhizzle's range contains enough sets or overpairs with a club.
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
going for trifecta Obv
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
Joe is clearly going for a c/r here, but i think the A is a poor card to go for it on. I am curious as to what Newhizzles hand is here as it seem to be a very good check IMO.
As for the original question, the turn action is quite obvious, and I actually think Joe should have capped it, however perhaps there were some other factors that cannot be ascertained in this post. JT |
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
Really? I thought he was going for a river c/r?
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
think nate was joking...
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
limit is boring
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
its good for balancing and the metagame to every so often
take the oppurtunity to call a third bet on the turn and then c/r the river for value instead of capping the turn and betting out we diversify our range on the river which presents us with new oppurtunites to be able to c/r bluff and bluffcap with a higher rate of success and to also decrease our chances of being bluff/3betted by the way we played this particular hand busted draws we can now occassionally bluff more convicingly than before however you must give up value on the turn and not cap in order to let your opponent retain the aggression but if it looks like your opponent may check it thru then by all means bet the river |
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Re: Question on Stars 500/1000 hand
The problem here with forgoing the turn cap and attempting to c/r the river, is that it could too easily fail. You have to put newhizzle on two pair, a set, or a straight and there are just too many river cards he would have to check behind. So getting the money in while you can is best.
I think he got a little greedy with the c/r attempt on the river, but it's not bad, since the ace us as good a card as any to go for it. |
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