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Old 08-09-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

I think I call here because I see the big hearts raising the flop, my assumption is when you just called his bet that you had some medium heart and that you couldnt call in two spots
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:52 PM
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I think I call here because I see the big hearts raising the flop, my assumption is when you just called his bet that you had some medium heart and that you couldnt call in two spots

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i wish my thoughts got worded like this.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

That flop bet is really weak. Please make a real bet.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:56 PM
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really dislike pre with stack sizes.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:50 PM
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really dislike pre with stack sizes.

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i agree, but was on autopilot 3bet yourass mode
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

So I tanked on river. Changed my mind about 3 times and finally the clock ran out and I couldn't act, so I folded, ldo. Xorbie immediately tells me that it shoulda been an easy call and it was a horrible bluff actually, we don't have the stones to make calls at this level, etc, lol. So, I guess I was good unless he was just yankin my chain (he says he had K9o/no heart). I really think if I had 20 more seconds I woulda called, but w/e.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

So I tanked on river. Changed my mind about 3 times and finally the clock ran out and I couldn't act, so I folded, ldo. Xorbie immediately tells me that it shoulda been an easy call and it was a horrible bluff actually, we don't have the stones to make calls at this level, etc, lol. So, I guess I was good unless he was just yankin my chain (he says he had K9o/no heart). I really think if I had 20 more seconds I woulda called, but w/e.



at least someone agrees w/ me!
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

River is without a doubt a fold imo. Your range for c/c the turn are sets and flushes, and he knows that, and I don't think he is going to try to push you off those hands often. On the river, you either boated up or have some kind of flush, likely a strong one. Occasionally he is going to be bluffing here but I think you're being taken to valuetown > 80% of the time here.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

flop bet poorly sized i would make it much larger or not at all. prolly larger > check > bet 30.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie

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So I tanked on river. Changed my mind about 3 times and finally the clock ran out and I couldn't act, so I folded, ldo. Xorbie immediately tells me that it shoulda been an easy call and it was a horrible bluff actually, we don't have the stones to make calls at this level, etc, lol. So, I guess I was good unless he was just yankin my chain (he says he had K9o/no heart). I really think if I had 20 more seconds I woulda called, but w/e.

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He said that it was an easy call for you and a horrible bluff by him? I agree that it's a horrible spot for him to bluff, and that's why I would have folded. Not an easy call by any means though unless he makes those "horrible bluffs" all the time.

Fwiw I've never played with Xorbie I don't think, but I know he is a good player and from a good player I think you'll see them bluffing the river here pretty rarely unless they have a very good read.
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