sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

Xorbie's running 24/17ish. We haven't tangled much. I'm sure there will be different lines of thinking preflop. The rest of the hand seems interesting too. Shouldn't he be concerned I have JJ,QQ and be checking hearts on river. I can't put him on a boat cuz he woulda checked behind turn.
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($51.90)
MP ($253.50)
CO ($154.35)
Button ($349.35)
SB ($185)
Hero ($334.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, Button calls $20.

Flop: ($57) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Button calls $30.

Turn: ($117) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $70</font>, Hero calls $70.

River: ($257) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $150</font>

Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

i prefer c/c flop, as played turn is close (undecided atm - leaning towards fold), and rivers an easy fold, he's rarely bluffing there. It looks like you're inducing with a heart.

Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

vs xorbie i think im snapcalling here.

From a very very limited time playing with him at 100NL he is very very aggro and will call flop with any piece and look to outplay turn/river

Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

river is a really bad place to bluff though loot, wouldn't you agree?

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river is a really bad place to bluff though loot, wouldn't you agree?

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no?

why would you think it is?

because hero might have QQ/JJ and just boated?

bah no way.
very more likely he has ThTx or KhQx and will have a tough time calling down here.

Im sure Xorbie knows this and is just going to run your ass through a grinder because of it.

I cant think of a better place to turn black kings or aces or something into a bluff for that matter if you are willing to fire multiple shells.

Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

i just think it is because it looks like hero is inducing and never has a plan to fold.

idk, depends what level they're on i guess.

Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

jw...does everyone 3bet 88 oop?

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esp w/ his agro image..

Re: sorta deep w/ xorbie
 

Xorbie fires like almost all of his range on the turn and river if you let him. I would just fold the turn and move on given this information, since you have no significant history of aggression with him, making it very thin and not worthwhile to call down here. I put him on a preflop range that is ahead of 88 most of the time too. I see xorbie fold to a lot of 3 bets.

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Xorbie fires like almost all of his range on the turn and river if you let him. I would just fold the turn and move on given this information, since you have no significant history of aggression with him, making it very thin and not worthwhile to call down here. I put him on a preflop range that is ahead of 88 most of the time too. I see xorbie fold to a lot of 3 bets.

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id agree with just folding the turn given this, but if im calling it gawd damnit im snapcalling this river.