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Old 02-26-2007, 07:47 PM
Duerig Duerig is offline
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If you call the flop don't check the turn and give his spades a free river. I would call and lead turn or 3bet the flop. Not sure which is best yet though.

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I can't see how donking turn is better than 3-bet. You let him see another card for cheap and he will not rebluff on the turn or stack off as light with a smaller PP.

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Doesn't he fold PPs and FDs to a flop push, while calling with any 9 or 55? I like calling and leading the turn because we can get more value from draws and we lose less vs hands that are beating us (assuming we bet-fold the turn).
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:50 PM
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I almost never bet full pot on any street now excpet like really small limped pots or if me and villain are really deep compared to pot size.

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hmm

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I do the same

also, stack a donk is good when the villian is less likely to hold a draw (because he will often check behind), so 3bet
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:00 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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I almost never bet full pot on any street now excpet like really small limped pots or if me and villain are really deep compared to pot size.

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hmm

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hmmm in a hmmm way or hmmm in a your an idiot way?
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:20 PM
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I almost never bet full pot on any street now excpet like really small limped pots or if me and villain are really deep compared to pot size.

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hmm

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hmmm in a hmmm way or hmmm in a your an idiot way?

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i read it as hmmm in a "hmmm stacks are fairly deep in relation to the pot" way?
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:31 PM
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I almost never bet full pot on any street now excpet like really small limped pots or if me and villain are really deep compared to pot size.

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hmm

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hmmm in a hmmm way or hmmm in a your an idiot way?

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I think that you leave a ton of EV on the tables if you don't consistently get pot sized bets in with strong hands .
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:33 AM
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Results please?
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:35 AM
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I almost never bet full pot on any street now excpet like really small limped pots or if me and villain are really deep compared to pot size.

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hmm

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hmmm in a hmmm way or hmmm in a your an idiot way?

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I think that you leave a ton of EV on the tables if you don't consistently get pot sized bets in with strong hands .

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Do you merge your range so your turn pot bet isn't always a very strong hand? Or not bother with that stuff till 400nl+?
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:39 AM
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Define stack-a-donk please.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:40 AM
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Define stack-a-donk please.

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bet flop, your c-bet gets raised, you CRAI on the turn
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:46 AM
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call and c/r turn, pretty standard.

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Has no one considered villain having air?
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