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Old 11-11-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul nuts, please read the last paragraph of this article

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The last time the NAU came up, we dismissed it as a conspiracy theory.

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Honestly, if your average American knew about this they'd be outraged. Vicente Fox has been pimping it on the talk show circuit, this is something that would get people riled up against it.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul nuts, please read the last paragraph of this article

I was curious, so I dug up a transcript of an appearance by Fox on Larry King. Judge for yourself how sinister it is:

KING: E-mail from Mrs. Gonzalez in Elizabeth, New Jersey. "Mr. Fox, I would like to know how you feel about the possibility of having a Latin America united with one currency?"

FOX: Long term, very long term. What we propose together, President Bush and myself, it's ALCA, which is a trade union for all of the Americas. And everything was running fluently until Hugo Chavez came. He decided to isolate himself. He decided to combat the idea and destroy the idea...

KING: It's going to be like the euro dollar, you mean?

FOX: Well, that would be long, long term. I think the processes to go, first step into is trading agreement. And then further on, a new vision, like we are trying to do with NAFTA.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul nuts, please read the last paragraph of this article

Compared to 200 years ago the world is now the size of a ping-pong ball, we are packed one on top of the other, and whatever frontiers there are are tiny. Communications are instant, ideas don't take any time at all to travel and things are starting to look the same all over (list of countries with a McDonald's franchise). Borders don't mean what they once did. Cultures are becoming more similar. Give it 200 more years and I doubt that nations as we know them will exist.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul nuts, please read the last paragraph of this article

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The last time the NAU came up, we dismissed it as a conspiracy theory. That might be because it was coming from Nielsio, but contrast that with how Ineedaride2 sounds now that Paul is saying it.

(Not saying Paul supports the NAU, just that he believes it's happening).

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NAU discussion werent dimissed as conspiracy theory. That theyve been ongoing since the European union was developing is obviously true.

What was dismissed as conspiracy theory was that it was so immiment that coins were being minted.

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Rothbard forgive me for agreeing with Copernicus.

NAU talk has been growing for years, with a lot of economists and politicos pushing for it. Incremental steps have already been taken, such as this one.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul nuts, please read the last paragraph of this article

Also, check out bdog's license!
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:53 PM
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I like the way that the articles says "Economists Debunk 'Amero' Story", and then proceed to not debunk it in the slightest. It's basically a few random economist opining "Eh, it'll never happen." How that is supposed to constitute a "debunking" is unclear.

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Another RIDBP. They give the reasons why it won't happen, and they arent "random economists". Next think you'll be linking to the Amero coin thread.

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Another no-content Copernican attack. No, I guess it wasn't "random economists", it was one non-random economist, an economist for the CFR (lol), author of a very friendly text on fiat monetary integration. When the only source cited is the pro-monetary integration guy from the CFR saying, "Nothing to see here folks, move along", I tend to be skeptical.

And the "reasons why it won't happen", that the member states would never go for it because of national sovereignty concerns and that it would necessitate a single central bank that would be politically infeasible, are EXACTLY the reasons that were given for why the European Union and the Euro would "never happen."

Ironically, all you need if you want monetary integration is to go back to the gold standard. We had total world monetary integration in the 19th century, not surprisingly the most sustained period of international peace and prosperity in the history of the world. Strangely enough, as soon as states started installing central banks and going off the international gold standard warfare of unimaginable scale broke out. States could suddenly finance their international aggression and hide the true cost, at least for a few years.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:56 PM
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Also, check out bdog's license!

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In case it was not obvious, that was a joke. I do have a hologram of North America on the back of my license, but there really isn't any microtype.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:59 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98
The NAU is defiantly real, but people will like the idea when they start selling it to us. I have a strange feeling that there will be little disagreement amongst media people when this issue comes to the forefront.
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