The Ventitian now allows benjies to play in the 2/5NL?

EWillers · #1 03-31-2007, 04:43 AM

Played at the V for the first time in about a week tonight. Evidently, the rule regarding cash playing in the 2/5NL (not sure about the 1/2)game has been changed.

The V has a $1000 cap on the 2/5.

To my knowledge this is the only house in Vegas that allows cash to play in a restricted buy-in game. Is this a positive devolopment?

It seems a matter of convenience vs. game integrity.

Sure, everybody knows that sometimes it's a pain in the arse to have to flag down a chip runner to get new money into the game. However, when there's a cap on the buy-in, allowing $100 bills to play offers a safe and easy way for a would be wrong doer to do his wrongs.

Do many places other than Vegas have situations where bills play in a restricted buy-in game? Has it led to any trouble?

deepdowntruth · #2 03-31-2007, 04:51 AM

Cash plays at the Caesar's 1/3NL with a $500 max. I have not heard of any 'trouble' per se, but I have seen people on at least two occasions sneak money off the table (I didn't say anything, however, because I regarded them as bad players and good for the game.)

bav · #3 03-31-2007, 05:08 AM

Cash plays at Rio's NL2/5 $500 game. And at Sahara's $500 NL1/2 (and at their 2/4 game). Usually the rule is if cash plays, it's only $100's, but at Sahara I think any bills play.

Only "trouble" I've seen is when people make assumptions about how many bills folks are playing, or if someone has folded their $100's and effectively hidden 'em. And I haven't seen that happen in a coon's age.

I like bills playing because it seems to make things go a little faster. I can also just buy in for $300 or $500 without much worry about the stacks at the table I'm being sent to, and if I find $300 is the short stack I can add a few bills. It's also easy to add a bill or two after your AJs loses to Q4 after AXX flops and Q4 goes all-in for his last $81 and hits runner-runner Q4 for two pair (to pick a hand not at all at random from tonight).

Some folks hate bills playing because it's hard to tell at a glance how much someone has, so yeah, it makes it a little easier to exceed the buy-in cap just 'cause bills can be slipped in a bit less noticably than lots of chips or large denomination chips. Just haven't seen that as an issue.

felson · #4 03-31-2007, 06:08 AM

$100 bills play at Bellagio 5/10 NL (1k max buyin).

Percula · #5 03-31-2007, 09:34 AM

I am a strange bird, as I don't like to play with bills in my stack, in fact if a win a pot with bills in it, I color them up.

As far as playing with bills, the things I have seen be a problem is it can slow down the game with the classic "AI... Dealer how much is the bet?". It is a lot faster to count chips than bills, and tends to be more accurate too. It also opens up the "I thought I calling $2500 and not $6500" issues that have been posted about recently which can be solved by "Dealer how much is the bet?" which circles right back to problem one of slowing down the game.

aggie · #6 03-31-2007, 10:22 AM

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As far as playing with bills, the things I have seen be a problem is it can slow down the game with the classic "AI... Dealer how much is the bet?". It is a lot faster to count chips than bills, and tends to be more accurate too. It also opens up the "I thought I calling $2500 and not $6500" issues that have been posted about recently which can be solved by "Dealer how much is the bet?" which circles right back to problem one of slowing down the game.

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For the most part, i totally disagree with this....It's much faster to put bills in the pot and to count them. For instance putting 5 bills in the pot and fanning them out is MUCH quicker than putting 2.5 stacks of $10 chips or 5 stacks of $5 chips in the pot. Obviously, using big chips (black and purple) is the quickest method of all.

xducracer · #7 03-31-2007, 07:01 PM

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Cash plays at the Caesar's 1/3NL with a $500 max. I have not heard of any 'trouble' per se, but I have seen people on at least two occasions sneak money off the table (I didn't say anything, however, because I regarded them as bad players and good for the game.)

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Cash plays at the Mirage, Mandalay Bay, and most of the stations I think....

pig4bill · #8 03-31-2007, 09:33 PM

I didn't think there was a poker room in Vegas where cash DIDN'T play.

PeteN · #9 03-31-2007, 09:39 PM

Interesting I had a dealer at the stratosphere tell me they were the only place to allow cash to play he may have meant in 1/2 nl but he thought it was bad because players sneak money off and on the table.

bav · #10 03-31-2007, 11:00 PM

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I didn't think there was a poker room in Vegas where cash DIDN'T play.

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There are many. Harrah's, IP, Bally's, Paris, MGM, to name five I'm pretty certain of. Though one time when Harrah's was completely overwhelmed with all the tables going and too few staff they agreed to allow $100's to play on the NL2/5 table for a few hours. Once they got a couple more people in and caught up, they ran around table by table and converted cash into chips and stopped allowing cash to play again. This would be an example when common sense prevailed at a Harrah's property.