I got banned from a bowling alley

[BobboFitos]

huh pf is fine. i dont get it. played fine, although calling turn works too.

[ikestoys]

i run 30/25... i fold pf.

can't fold this flop if you are going to call pf.

you are hoping for a miracle on the turn. you realize you don't have a 4 to hit right? So basically have a flush draw only when he calls

[BobboFitos]

you guys think you're always up against AA/KK/AK or something? i dont understand, this guy is in steal position and although he raises those, he's 16pfr. he'll show up with those hands (and the fact both hit, and you have an ace, make those VERY unlikely) at most 5% of the time. (on the flop atleast)

potting on ftp is alot dif then PS with the pot button. some people just cbet that much. on the turn if he potted again and if we didnt improve (A, 4, spade) i probably would drop it (although sometimes i ride top pair home...) but given the fact billy has showdown value and near nut potential means LETS PLAY FOR STACKS BABY.

[billyjex]

I don't see how I can fold the flop. The dude got two calls from the blind on an AKxr flop; it seems alot of aggro dudes will bet here with anything. Of course I put myself in a bad spot OOP if I don't improve, since I have to fold to a further bet which an aggro dude can of course do with worse.

The turn, he instapotted again, and, I do think he has air a small amount, and also, if I push I'm repping a big [censored] hand aren't I? Yeah, he's 36/16, but that's 60 hands. He's probably got at least some kind of brain and can lay down some aces here. If called I got flush outs pretty much always (who the [censored] instapots a full house here?), and chopping outs vs an A.

[Ansky]

pf and flop are fine you guys are all nits.

turn sucks tho billy

[Hoopster81]

PF call is one I usually make unless I am in a bunch of other hands at the moment and just don't bother.

Don't like the turn c/r, I would sometimes call but probably mostly fold vs unknown.

[Big_Jim]

Fold the turn unless you think there's a good chance that you actually have the best hand, or that he might actually fold an A.

PF and flop are fine, but I'd usually fold pre until I get some post-flop reads.

[ddubois]

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unless you think there's a good chance that you actually have the best hand

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I wonder how often is often enough.

[Ansky]

The reason not to shove the turn is not "you will only have 9 outs when called."

That is retarded reasoning.

The reason is that it looks very unlikely that you will get a fold.

[ikestoys]

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The reason not to shove the turn is not "you will only have 9 outs when called."

That is retarded reasoning.

The reason is that it looks very unlikely that you will get a fold.

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i thought it was pretty obv you weren't getting a fold, so youre stuck w/ your 9 outs ty