wa/wb situation, anyone put in a raise?

terencetsao · #1 06-02-2007, 08:29 PM

since villan raised UTG i put him on range is AQ+ and TT+. I flop top pair on the flop and i figure it is a either way ahead or way behind situation. Aganist AK and AA im in big trouble, aganist the rest of villan's range he only has 2 odds. I think if i raised villan will fold when he is beat so i just let him take the betting lead the whole way. Classic?

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 7 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.75BB

kerowo · #2 06-02-2007, 08:36 PM

So you raised him for information on the flop and didn't listen to it. Or you had a read and didn't listen to it. When he donked you on the turn what did you put him on?

terencetsao · #3 06-02-2007, 08:40 PM

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So you raised him for information on the flop and didn't listen to it. Or you had a read and didn't listen to it. When he donked you on the turn what did you put him on?

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I didnt raise on the flop because i am either WA or WB. Once he donk on the turn again, i really put him on AK

kerowo · #4 06-02-2007, 08:42 PM

Ah, I misread pre-flop and flop. He donked you on the flop after you 3-bet pre-flop on an ace high flop. The lowest range of your read on him has you losing money to the rake when you split. I don't think I can fold this, but he is telling you he has at least AK here.

nerdking · #5 06-02-2007, 09:46 PM

you're giving villain too much credit. unless he's another rock we should add AT, AJ, 88, 99, 77--hell, any number of hands. This calldown is awful. Trey the flop as we're probably WA/WA.

kerowo · #6 06-02-2007, 09:58 PM

Nerd, where are you getting the read that this guy is an agro monkey with a stuck bet button?

terencetsao · #7 06-02-2007, 10:01 PM

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Nerd, where are you getting the read that this guy is an agro monkey with a stuck bet button?

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i agree, and i probably will make more money by calling down anywayz

nerdking · #8 06-02-2007, 10:30 PM

I'm not getting a read at all, as terence hasn't given me one. He's raised. He's betting. That's all I know. Until terence can give me numbers, I put villain on "any two". I stand by my raise the flop comment.

kerowo · #9 06-02-2007, 10:42 PM

UTG raises, calls a 3-bet pre-flop then donks this flop and you put him on any two? What is your default read on people? Maroons?

akak · #10 06-02-2007, 10:43 PM

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I'm not getting a read at all, as terence hasn't given me one. He's raised. He's betting. That's all I know. Until terence can give me numbers, I put villain on "any two". I stand by my raise the flop comment.

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I agree. A standard villain wouldn't donk with AK. I'm thinking he has a weaker Ax than you. Raise. If he re-raises call and make a tough decision on the turn if UI.