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Old 09-27-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

basically. crai has the same outcome as c/c.

IMO. there are 2 options. c/f, and crai. I think c/f is too weak.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

Also, tbh, I check this flop alot no matter what I have
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

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basically. crai has the same outcome as c/c.

IMO. there are 2 options. c/f, and crai. I think c/f is too weak.

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Well when he bet the 20 I agree, those are my only decisions there. I decided to shove, I'm just really not in love with the line since I'm prolly going to be crushed way more often than he pays me off with QQ. IMO
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

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basically. crai has the same outcome as c/c.

IMO. there are 2 options. c/f, and crai. I think c/f is too weak.

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Well when he bet the 20 I agree, those are my only decisions there. I decided to shove, I'm just really not in love with the line since I'm prolly going to be crushed way more often than he pays me off with QQ. IMO

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You played the hand well. If he hadn't caught a 2 outter on the turn you woulda had his stack. Theres not much too worry about here.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

Does a 23/18 4bet AK oop?

I think that when all the money goes in if you were to look at a long term perspective, that you would see as many midpair hands show up along with AK/boats that a CRAI is fine here over his $20.00 bet.

As someone said c/f is weak here.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

Looking at stack/pot sizes I guess crai is the best afterall, I recant my previous statements
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

He didn't have a K, and while some 23/18's might 4 bet it.. he doesn't even 3 bet AK, he cold calls with it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

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Also, tbh, I check this flop alot no matter what I have

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what the hell? K high flops are like the best to cbet and 2 barrel on. Its like either he has the K or not. And since AA even beats his K this is a 3 street value hand.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

I recant my earlier line, I see yah you can't c/c without being commited. So yes there are only two lines on the turn

c/f or crai.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: AA rerasied pot oop, what to do on turn???

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Also, tbh, I check this flop alot no matter what I have

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what the hell? K high flops are like the best to cbet and 2 barrel on. Its like either he has the K or not. And since AA even beats his K this is a 3 street value hand.

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I feel like if villain has a K, we're getting his stack anyways. IMO, checking the flop gets more value out of weaker hands and also helps for when I end up in this situation lightly, as I don't have to cbet.

If the guy likes to float then bet flop/crai turn works wonders, really depends on villain. But I don't see many players calling 2 barrels lightly on a K high flop
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