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Old 08-13-2007, 10:13 PM
rhizome rhizome is offline
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Default $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

Is this just exceptionally nitty?

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UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1420)
MP1 (t3040)
MP2 (t1450)
CO (t1630)
Button (t1500)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 calls t20, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, Hero calls t10, BB checks

Flop: (t140) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t120</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t320</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

Either lead with a pot sized bet or check/raise all in.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:34 PM
rhizome rhizome is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

Obviously, I was going to c/r all in, but I let it go when they started firing.

KJ just seemed like a good possibility in a 6 way limped pot. Even if it's just a flush draw + a gutshot, I'm only 57-43.


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Old 08-13-2007, 10:36 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

If I'm checking I'm definitely shoving when it gets back to me. Usually I'd just lead here though and get it in by the turn.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:42 PM
ymu ymu is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

Agree with splashpot. I'd always lead full pot here, but I'm assuming CRAI was the plan before the reraise?

Ugly but I probably go broke. There's plenty hands that like this flop in a limped pot and we're pretty strong. If it's KJ, just hit your 4 outer. AhKh (15 outs) is unlikely, as is TT/QQ/AA given preflop. AhJh and a bunch of other 12 outers are more likely, AT and smaller 2 pair are very likely indeed, at least one of them may have a naked A. There's some money in the pot and a 2nd villain who may call behind (a good thing here, I think).
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:04 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

if you lead the pot you need to be prepared to be called in a couple of spots and you might be in a really tough spot on the turn (K, J, heart).

so i probably go for a CRAI just to avoid the mess.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:05 AM
smilingbill smilingbill is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

Wow, I'd fold this without feeling particularly torn about it, guess I'm a nit [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:36 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

I like a c/r all in.

If you bet, you probably want to overbet the pot (200 or something) but c/r is better imo.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:43 AM
Kvalitet Kvalitet is offline
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Default Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action

I would fold, too, even though you might be ahead here.
It's early, you have invested 0.67% of your stack, and the chance of facing KJ or a sooooted combo is very likley IMO.
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