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rhizome 08-13-2007 10:13 PM

$16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
Is this just exceptionally nitty?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1420)
MP1 (t3040)
MP2 (t1450)
CO (t1630)
Button (t1500)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 calls t20, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, Hero calls t10, BB checks

Flop: (t140) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t120</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t320</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>

splashpot 08-13-2007 10:22 PM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
Either lead with a pot sized bet or check/raise all in.

rhizome 08-13-2007 10:34 PM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
Obviously, I was going to c/r all in, but I let it go when they started firing.

KJ just seemed like a good possibility in a 6 way limped pot. Even if it's just a flush draw + a gutshot, I'm only 57-43.


http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2960313
pokenum -h ac qc - jh 3h -- ah qh ts
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ts Ah Qh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Qc 563 56.87 418 42.22 9 0.91 0.573
Jh 3h 418 42.22 563 56.87 9 0.91 0.427

sippin_criss 08-13-2007 10:36 PM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
If I'm checking I'm definitely shoving when it gets back to me. Usually I'd just lead here though and get it in by the turn.

ymu 08-13-2007 10:42 PM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
Agree with splashpot. I'd always lead full pot here, but I'm assuming CRAI was the plan before the reraise?

Ugly but I probably go broke. There's plenty hands that like this flop in a limped pot and we're pretty strong. If it's KJ, just hit your 4 outer. AhKh (15 outs) is unlikely, as is TT/QQ/AA given preflop. AhJh and a bunch of other 12 outers are more likely, AT and smaller 2 pair are very likely indeed, at least one of them may have a naked A. There's some money in the pot and a 2nd villain who may call behind (a good thing here, I think).

Little John 08-13-2007 11:04 PM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
if you lead the pot you need to be prepared to be called in a couple of spots and you might be in a really tough spot on the turn (K, J, heart).

so i probably go for a CRAI just to avoid the mess.

smilingbill 08-14-2007 08:05 AM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
Wow, I'd fold this without feeling particularly torn about it, guess I'm a nit [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

RexWoo 08-14-2007 08:36 AM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
I like a c/r all in.

If you bet, you probably want to overbet the pot (200 or something) but c/r is better imo.

Kvalitet 08-14-2007 08:43 AM

Re: $16 Stars: Early, Top 2, vs Action
 
I would fold, too, even though you might be ahead here.
It's early, you have invested 0.67% of your stack, and the chance of facing KJ or a sooooted combo is very likley IMO.


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