sexy this river vs Chez?

[efficacy]

PokerStars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (6.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...

[Amaryllis]

Check-check is soooooo ugly

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I dont do this when I have shown so much strength preflop.

Say I just raised in the SB vs his BB. Then I'd look for a sexy.

When 3-betting preflop people tend to check more as they just wanna see a SD. Say he has JT. Then he will think you have QQ and KK a lot and not bet. In my example where you just open raised your range is wider and there is more value in a bet for him.

Something Yourface have made me think about.

[MacGuyV]

If he has JT he may not even call the river anyway (I know lol but think about it he's never good when we bet). He has an Ace a lot, this sexy is borderline standard imo.

[efficacy]

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I dont do this when I have shown so much strength preflop.

Say I just raised in the SB vs his BB. Then I'd look for a sexy.

When 3-betting preflop people tend to check more as they just wanna see a SD. Say he has JT. Then he will think you have QQ and KK a lot and not bet. In my example where you just open raised your range is wider and there is more value in a bet for him.

Something Yourface have made me think about.

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I don't think he calls this river with JT, so I wouldn't miss any value from that hand.

[efficacy]

I think the only hands he calls with here are aces that I beat - hands that he will also v-bet vs my "obv" KK/QQ/TT if I check the river.

All other hands are folding if I bet and checking behind if I check.

idk... chez plays so perfectly against me, I think he might even fold AT / AQ to a river c/r. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Oink]

Oh yeah good points about JT

Folding JT here never entered my mind. lol


Well in that case I certainly like a c/r a lot more.

What about KK and QQ. Chez folding those as well? noo?
EDIT: But he is capping them preflop [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]. I need to go to bed

If he folds AT, AQ to a c/r then it doesnt do you any good efficacy. In particular if he cks behind QQ, KK that might would have called a bet.


On the other hand. c/r here is good for metagame. It might buy you some free SD's OOP with KK, QQ in other spots like this.

[efficacy]

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What about KK and QQ. Chez folding those as well? noo?

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I think KK and QQ are very small part of his range because he is probably capping those preflop a large % of the time.

[Amaryllis]

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I dont do this when I have shown so much strength preflop.

Say I just raised in the SB vs his BB. Then I'd look for a sexy.

When 3-betting preflop people tend to check more as they just wanna see a SD. Say he has JT. Then he will think you have QQ and KK a lot and not bet. In my example where you just open raised your range is wider and there is more value in a bet for him.

Something Yourface have made me think about.

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I don't think he calls this river with JT, so I wouldn't miss any value from that hand.

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Edit. Post deleted b/c you answered this question as I was typing it.

[rzk]

i think the answer depends on whether chez will call your c/r if he has a weak ace.

if he will, then we only need him to bet half as often as he calls your bet. i think he has a weak ace that he plays wa/wb here often enough.