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Old 01-22-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Stud Hi Couple of big loss hands to check

I agree. More likely 2 pair.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Stud Hi Couple of big loss hands to check

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Do i always need a live pair to continue? Do all 3 cards have to be higher than any door card?

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Not in an absolute sense. To steal from a timid bring in, you just need to have been dealt cards. To continue though, you need some sort of hand either to show down or represent, which can be as little as a flushing board with overcards (though this not enough to try to bluff multiple opponents). If you have a crappy hand and an opponent who has shown he is unwilling to fold, don't keep putting money in.

In SS, Chip Reese describes stealing on Third as a "one-shot play," meaning you try the steal and give up if you meet resistance. He is real smart and you should listen to him.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:07 PM
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I find it extremely unlikely that we are up against trips in the first hand.

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oops - you got me. Wait, aren't deuces and one eyed jacks wild?

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no, no....its fours, whores, & mustache growers.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:18 PM
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I agree. More likely 2 pair.

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could very well be looking at a boat on 5th given the action too.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Stud Hi Couple of big loss hands to check

True, my money is on a big buried pair, AA is possible.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:00 PM
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Chip Reese...is real smart and you should listen to him.

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Old 01-22-2007, 06:09 PM
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In the stud 8 section of SS2, Todd Brunson shows the math that if two players have the same doorcard, there is a higher probability of one of them having a pair than if only one person has that doorcard exposed.

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The probability is higher that one of them will have a pair of that particular rank. The overall chance of either having any pair is diminished, however.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:38 PM
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Three cards in sequence are frequently OK, as long as your straight cards are live. Gapped three-straights can be OK in the right spots. A hand like AKx is pretty suspect. AK is a solid starting hand in Hold'em. You'll flop a pair about 1/3 of the time, and top pair/top kicker is frequently good enough to win. In stud, you're paying for cards one at a time, and one pair or two pair isn't going to hold up as often. I'll play AKx as a steal or limp in late with it, but it's nothing to get excited about. If AKx is a weak hand, where do you think that puts T85?
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