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Old 04-21-2007, 10:38 PM
cassette cassette is offline
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Default Am I betting for value?

SB is 53/17/1.2 haven't seen anything crazy in 70 hands.
BB is unknown.

Am I betting the turn here? And if so is it for value or as a bluff? Seems like a good double barrel card.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $102.25
UTG+1: $109.62
CO: $125.50
Button: $90.50
SB: $279.02
BB: $72.87

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($42, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets?
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Old 04-21-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

one of these players probably has u beat but its doubtful that they have a king in their hand so i think this 2nd barrell works with hands that beat u, but i think hands u beat str8 or flush draws might call
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Old 04-21-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

This is never a value bet
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Old 04-21-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

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This is never a value bet

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at .50/1 with str8 and flush draws on this board. I think never is a strong statement
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

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This is never a value bet

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I think with infinite draws on the flop this is sometimes for value. Not often, though.

Are you betting as a bluff then? Or checking?
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

It's a semi-bluff / semi-protection bet. You fold out some 6x hands and mid range pocket pairs while charging drawss
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

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It's a semi-bluff / semi-protection bet. You fold out some 6x hands and mid range pocket pairs while charging drawss

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yeah, good point. I think you should fire here.
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Old 04-22-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

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This is never a value bet

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actually it sort of is. it's a great spot to bet, whatever you call it. You will fold out made hands that are beating you (mid-pairs), but still get calls from flush draws. Best of both worlds. if called and a non-flush card falls on the river you need to bet again.
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Old 04-22-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

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This is never a value bet

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What?

Sb is still trying to figure out if q9 matches this flop, bb can be calling with plenty of worse pieces that hit this flop, naked 5s, flush draws.

Make it 764 and its much more likely we are behind at least one person.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: Am I betting for value?

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What?

Sb is still trying to figure out if q9 matches this flop,

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I'm high and laughed really hard at this. Thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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