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cassette 04-21-2007 10:38 PM

Am I betting for value?
 
SB is 53/17/1.2 haven't seen anything crazy in 70 hands.
BB is unknown.

Am I betting the turn here? And if so is it for value or as a bluff? Seems like a good double barrel card.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $102.25
UTG+1: $109.62
CO: $125.50
Button: $90.50
SB: $279.02
BB: $72.87

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($42, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets?

luckybacon 04-21-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
one of these players probably has u beat but its doubtful that they have a king in their hand so i think this 2nd barrell works with hands that beat u, but i think hands u beat str8 or flush draws might call

Eagles 04-21-2007 10:41 PM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
This is never a value bet

luckybacon 04-21-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
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This is never a value bet

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at .50/1 with str8 and flush draws on this board. I think never is a strong statement

cassette 04-22-2007 01:25 AM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
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This is never a value bet

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I think with infinite draws on the flop this is sometimes for value. Not often, though.

Are you betting as a bluff then? Or checking?

shpanko 04-22-2007 01:26 AM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
It's a semi-bluff / semi-protection bet. You fold out some 6x hands and mid range pocket pairs while charging drawss

Vegas_VIP 04-22-2007 01:43 AM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
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It's a semi-bluff / semi-protection bet. You fold out some 6x hands and mid range pocket pairs while charging drawss

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yeah, good point. I think you should fire here.

yad 04-22-2007 02:24 AM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
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This is never a value bet

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actually it sort of is. it's a great spot to bet, whatever you call it. You will fold out made hands that are beating you (mid-pairs), but still get calls from flush draws. Best of both worlds. if called and a non-flush card falls on the river you need to bet again.

Bukem_ 04-22-2007 02:36 AM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
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This is never a value bet

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What?

Sb is still trying to figure out if q9 matches this flop, bb can be calling with plenty of worse pieces that hit this flop, naked 5s, flush draws.

Make it 764 and its much more likely we are behind at least one person.

cassette 04-22-2007 05:32 AM

Re: Am I betting for value?
 
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What?

Sb is still trying to figure out if q9 matches this flop,

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I'm high and laughed really hard at this. Thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


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