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Old 08-23-2007, 11:47 AM
bkar824 bkar824 is offline
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Default NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

Villain is 11.5/2.2/3.2 after 220 hands


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SB: $51.45
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $47.00
UTG+1: $53.60
MP: $143.15
CO: $39.60
BTN: $34.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.50</font>, 5 folds, Hero calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.25</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $45.50</font>, Hero calls $21.25

Turn: ($94.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($94.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $94.25 ($3 Rake)


Is this incredibly standard? How much fold equity do I have with the b3b line? Once such a nitty player raises me, is it obvious he's not going to fold, or does it not matter because I'm ~45% to win?
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:07 PM
itsdanwall itsdanwall is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

A player with those stats is raising UTG pf with AA and KK maybe AKs, or QQ but probably not. I probably fold this preflop since you're playing the flop oop with a player who is going to cbet about 100% of the time and your hand generally needs to see the turn and river if its going to suck out on villains range(why pp's are better drawing hands than sc's).
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:20 PM
Yo'Maha Yo'Maha is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

I actually don't mind the play all the way to the point where he raises you to $7.00 after the flop. I think I call here and c/f to the blank on the river.

You know where you stand and you know he isn't letting go of the hand - and you're drawing to 2nd nuts.

Once he pops it after your raise.......see a card or be done with it....don't push here. You'll have better opportunities.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:58 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

Yeah, call the minraise. You've got EZ odds on your FD, and a T prolly gets you paid in full anyway. You might have to fold the turn.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:13 PM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

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Villain is 11.5/2.2/3.2 after 220 hands



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I'm dumping this preflop OOP to a UTG raise from this villain, and just calling the small raise on the flop.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

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Villain is 11.5/2.2/3.2 after 220 hands



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I'm dumping this preflop OOP to a UTG raise from this villain, and just calling the small raise on the flop.

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Since we are pretty sure his range is very narrow (and assuming that he will stack off with an overpair), we have a speculative hand and near 100bb stacks I think this should be a call preflop.

Obv dump anything less than than pair or a big draw on the flop to the inevitable c-bet.

As played the lack of fold equity may suggest calling the flop and re-evaluate on the turn (again assuming he wont lay down AA here even to an outright shove over his c-bet)
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

Standard. Maybe reraise more.
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?

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Obv dump anything less than than pair or a big draw on the flop to the inevitable c-bet.


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DOH - Should read "anything less than than two pair or a big draw "
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