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bkar824 08-23-2007 11:47 AM

NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
Villain is 11.5/2.2/3.2 after 220 hands


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $51.45
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $47.00
UTG+1: $53.60
MP: $143.15
CO: $39.60
BTN: $34.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.50</font>, 5 folds, Hero calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.25</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $45.50</font>, Hero calls $21.25

Turn: ($94.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($94.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $94.25 ($3 Rake)


Is this incredibly standard? How much fold equity do I have with the b3b line? Once such a nitty player raises me, is it obvious he's not going to fold, or does it not matter because I'm ~45% to win?

itsdanwall 08-23-2007 07:07 PM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
A player with those stats is raising UTG pf with AA and KK maybe AKs, or QQ but probably not. I probably fold this preflop since you're playing the flop oop with a player who is going to cbet about 100% of the time and your hand generally needs to see the turn and river if its going to suck out on villains range(why pp's are better drawing hands than sc's).

Yo'Maha 08-23-2007 07:20 PM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
I actually don't mind the play all the way to the point where he raises you to $7.00 after the flop. I think I call here and c/f to the blank on the river.

You know where you stand and you know he isn't letting go of the hand - and you're drawing to 2nd nuts.

Once he pops it after your raise.......see a card or be done with it....don't push here. You'll have better opportunities.

KurtSF 08-23-2007 07:58 PM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
Yeah, call the minraise. You've got EZ odds on your FD, and a T prolly gets you paid in full anyway. You might have to fold the turn.

ship_it_trebek 08-23-2007 10:13 PM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
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Villain is 11.5/2.2/3.2 after 220 hands



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I'm dumping this preflop OOP to a UTG raise from this villain, and just calling the small raise on the flop.

Sounded Simple 08-24-2007 03:30 AM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Villain is 11.5/2.2/3.2 after 220 hands



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I'm dumping this preflop OOP to a UTG raise from this villain, and just calling the small raise on the flop.

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Since we are pretty sure his range is very narrow (and assuming that he will stack off with an overpair), we have a speculative hand and near 100bb stacks I think this should be a call preflop.

Obv dump anything less than than pair or a big draw on the flop to the inevitable c-bet.

As played the lack of fold equity may suggest calling the flop and re-evaluate on the turn (again assuming he wont lay down AA here even to an outright shove over his c-bet)

Ctrl.Dominate 08-24-2007 03:38 AM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
Standard. Maybe reraise more.

Sounded Simple 08-24-2007 02:44 PM

Re: NL50 - QJs OOP standard flop play?
 
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Obv dump anything less than than pair or a big draw on the flop to the inevitable c-bet.


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DOH - Should read "anything less than than two pair or a big draw "


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