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Old 10-19-2007, 03:29 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

villain is 45/11/1.7 over 180 hands. I've isolated him a few times lately, so I might be getting on his nerves. In general this is going to be a monster too often too call, correct? In hindsight, I think it's probably best to just check the flop.

note his limp reraise

Blinds: $2/$4
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $621.00
Hero: $468.45
SB: $804.90
BB: $276.20

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $44</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($94, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $56</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $150</font>, Hero _______?
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

Id probably check the flop, but as played i guess folding is best
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

You gotta check this flop.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

If he is a good/tricky player than too many times he will be raising you with the 2nd best hand because he took the lead preflop, and is raising you off the best hand.

I say check this flop as well.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

its not even an issue if hes tricky, plus from his stats i just inferred that he wasnt. With his stats his 3betting range is very narrow, which means you are wa/wb here, and not going to get 3 streets of value from any hand, so just check the flop
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

i would fold this 0% of the time and be looking to get it in on the next street if possible 100% of the time. the only consideration is whether to push now or call and give him rope (and whether to check back the turn if he checks or just push then).
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

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its not even an issue if hes tricky, plus from his stats i just inferred that he wasnt. With his stats his 3betting range is very narrow, which means you are wa/wb here, and not going to get 3 streets of value from any hand, so just check the flop

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wow. wtf. AK on an A hi flop vs a 45 VPIP guy is like 8 streets worth of value.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

xorbie, did you notice that villain limp-reraised preflop? You're not concerned by this, and his follow up with a C/R on the flop?
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?

idk im pretty concerned when a 45/11 limp RR me preflop tbh, maybe im a nit or an idiot? idk then he c/r a dangerous board, wtf, i mean we have to hope he is just completely bluffing? Stacking off here seems really bad unless the guy is just on complete monkey tilt or something
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?



you call the lrr you get it in when you hit.
Am I missing something?
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