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Mossberg 10-19-2007 03:29 PM

400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
villain is 45/11/1.7 over 180 hands. I've isolated him a few times lately, so I might be getting on his nerves. In general this is going to be a monster too often too call, correct? In hindsight, I think it's probably best to just check the flop.

note his limp reraise

Blinds: $2/$4
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $621.00
Hero: $468.45
SB: $804.90
BB: $276.20

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $44</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($94, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $56</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $150</font>, Hero _______?

d2themfi 10-19-2007 03:30 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
Id probably check the flop, but as played i guess folding is best

AAismyfriend 10-19-2007 03:36 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
You gotta check this flop.

GootRuck 10-19-2007 03:45 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
If he is a good/tricky player than too many times he will be raising you with the 2nd best hand because he took the lead preflop, and is raising you off the best hand.

I say check this flop as well.

d2themfi 10-19-2007 03:50 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
its not even an issue if hes tricky, plus from his stats i just inferred that he wasnt. With his stats his 3betting range is very narrow, which means you are wa/wb here, and not going to get 3 streets of value from any hand, so just check the flop

xorbie 10-19-2007 04:04 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
i would fold this 0% of the time and be looking to get it in on the next street if possible 100% of the time. the only consideration is whether to push now or call and give him rope (and whether to check back the turn if he checks or just push then).

xorbie 10-19-2007 04:05 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
its not even an issue if hes tricky, plus from his stats i just inferred that he wasnt. With his stats his 3betting range is very narrow, which means you are wa/wb here, and not going to get 3 streets of value from any hand, so just check the flop

[/ QUOTE ]

wow. wtf. AK on an A hi flop vs a 45 VPIP guy is like 8 streets worth of value.

Mossberg 10-19-2007 04:07 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
xorbie, did you notice that villain limp-reraised preflop? You're not concerned by this, and his follow up with a C/R on the flop?

d2themfi 10-19-2007 04:23 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 
idk im pretty concerned when a 45/11 limp RR me preflop tbh, maybe im a nit or an idiot? idk then he c/r a dangerous board, wtf, i mean we have to hope he is just completely bluffing? Stacking off here seems really bad unless the guy is just on complete monkey tilt or something

Some9 10-19-2007 07:55 PM

Re: 400NL - safe to fold TPTK in a reraised pot here, right?
 


you call the lrr you get it in when you hit.
Am I missing something?


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