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08-10-2007, 09:07 PM
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Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
When i check raised this flop villain insta 3 bet. Everytime i see a stupid ass like this (min bet, min raise! your dead pal!) i get shown a huge hand, so this time i'm just ditching it. Thoughts?
Full Tilt Poker Game #3214403375: $55,000 Guarantee (24002784), Table 31 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:55:47 ET - 2007/08/10 Seat 1: botchok (2,015) Seat 2: Whatbeatswhat (3,605) Seat 3: jaconetti (3,040) Seat 4: vetiver (7,530) Seat 5: John Newcombe (4,665) Seat 6: quad stacks (3,090) Seat 7: grafyx (3,430) Seat 8: muckthenuts (4,910) Seat 9: Kenny Rap (3,805) grafyx posts the small blind of 30 muckthenuts posts the big blind of 60 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to muckthenuts [Qh Kd] Kenny Rap has 15 seconds left to act Kenny Rap is sitting out Kenny Rap has timed out Kenny Rap folds botchok folds Whatbeatswhat raises to 180 jaconetti folds vetiver folds Kenny Rap has returned John Newcombe has 15 seconds left to act John Newcombe folds quad stacks folds grafyx folds muckthenuts calls 120 *** FLOP *** [3s 4h Qd] muckthenuts checks Whatbeatswhat bets 120 muckthenuts raises to 400 Whatbeatswhat raises to 680 muckthenuts calls 280 *** TURN *** [3s 4h Qd] [7h] muckthenuts checks Whatbeatswhat bets 1,320 muckthenuts has 15 seconds left to act muckthenuts folds Uncalled bet of 1,320 returned to Whatbeatswhat Whatbeatswhat mucks Whatbeatswhat wins the pot (1,750) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,750 | Rake 0 Board: [3s 4h Qd 7h] Seat 1: botchok didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: Whatbeatswhat collected (1,750), mucked Seat 3: jaconetti didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: vetiver didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: John Newcombe didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: quad stacks (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: grafyx (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 8: muckthenuts (big blind) folded on the Turn Seat 9: Kenny Rap didn't bet (folded) 
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#3
08-10-2007, 10:13 PM
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Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
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Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this. [/ QUOTE ] When would you say i should start getting money in? I feel like if i c/c flop he'll check back a [censored] load and MAYBE i get a riv bet. Is that really all we can hope to get here?
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#4
08-10-2007, 10:27 PM
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Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
without any secondary draws i'm either folding the flop or getting it all in depending on how bad they are. I don't think you get any extra information by calling and seeing a turn card.
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#5
08-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
Since he is the PFR he should take every opportunity to rep a big pair.
I like check/call all the way, your c/r on the flop accomplishes nothing but bloating a pot where you have TPKK OOP....bleh. He could easily be using position to try you on. Regards, Woodguy
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#6
08-10-2007, 10:58 PM
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Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
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Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this. [/ QUOTE ] what? lol? Check raising flop bets is asking to get min 3 bet and potted on the turn? bond your line is fine.
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#7
08-10-2007, 11:28 PM
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Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
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what? lol? Check raising flop bets is asking to get min 3 bet and potted on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what the best line is, but I agree that our line does not (or any reasonable line without a huge read) invite a play like this against us. If someone really takes this line with a bluff, good job. B/c this spot sure looks like they want, and somewhat expect a call.
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#9
08-10-2007, 11:57 PM
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Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
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[ QUOTE ] Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this. [/ QUOTE ] When would you say i should start getting money in? I feel like if i c/c flop he'll check back a [censored] load and MAYBE i get a riv bet. Is that really all we can hope to get here? [/ QUOTE ] Why do you need to check the turn?
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