Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

When i check raised this flop villain insta 3 bet. Everytime i see a stupid ass like this (min bet, min raise! your dead pal!) i get shown a huge hand, so this time i'm just ditching it. Thoughts?


Full Tilt Poker Game #3214403375: $55,000 Guarantee (24002784), Table 31 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:55:47 ET - 2007/08/10
Seat 1: botchok (2,015)
Seat 2: Whatbeatswhat (3,605)
Seat 3: jaconetti (3,040)
Seat 4: vetiver (7,530)
Seat 5: John Newcombe (4,665)
Seat 6: quad stacks (3,090)
Seat 7: grafyx (3,430)
Seat 8: muckthenuts (4,910)
Seat 9: Kenny Rap (3,805)
grafyx posts the small blind of 30
muckthenuts posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to muckthenuts [Qh Kd]
Kenny Rap has 15 seconds left to act
Kenny Rap is sitting out
Kenny Rap has timed out
Kenny Rap folds
botchok folds
Whatbeatswhat raises to 180
jaconetti folds
vetiver folds
Kenny Rap has returned
John Newcombe has 15 seconds left to act
John Newcombe folds
quad stacks folds
grafyx folds
muckthenuts calls 120
*** FLOP *** [3s 4h Qd]
muckthenuts checks
Whatbeatswhat bets 120
muckthenuts raises to 400
Whatbeatswhat raises to 680
muckthenuts calls 280
*** TURN *** [3s 4h Qd] [7h]
muckthenuts checks
Whatbeatswhat bets 1,320
muckthenuts has 15 seconds left to act
muckthenuts folds
Uncalled bet of 1,320 returned to Whatbeatswhat
Whatbeatswhat mucks
Whatbeatswhat wins the pot (1,750)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,750 | Rake 0
Board: [3s 4h Qd 7h]
Seat 1: botchok didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Whatbeatswhat collected (1,750), mucked
Seat 3: jaconetti didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: vetiver didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: John Newcombe didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: quad stacks (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: grafyx (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: muckthenuts (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: Kenny Rap didn't bet (folded)

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this.

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

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Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this.

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When would you say i should start getting money in? I feel like if i c/c flop he'll check back a [censored] load and MAYBE i get a riv bet.

Is that really all we can hope to get here?

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

without any secondary draws i'm either folding the flop or getting it all in depending on how bad they are. I don't think you get any extra information by calling and seeing a turn card.

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

Since he is the PFR he should take every opportunity to rep a big pair.

I like check/call all the way, your c/r on the flop accomplishes nothing but bloating a pot where you have TPKK OOP....bleh.

He could easily be using position to try you on.

Regards,
Woodguy

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

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Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this.

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what? lol? Check raising flop bets is asking to get min 3 bet and potted on the turn?

bond your line is fine.

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

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what? lol? Check raising flop bets is asking to get min 3 bet and potted on the turn?


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I don't know what the best line is, but I agree that our line does not (or any reasonable line without a huge read) invite a play like this against us. If someone really takes this line with a bluff, good job. B/c this spot sure looks like they want, and somewhat expect a call.

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

is this a standard preflop call? I dont see how this can be profitable unless the pfr is really loose

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

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Why are you check-raising this flop? You're asking for this.

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When would you say i should start getting money in? I feel like if i c/c flop he'll check back a [censored] load and MAYBE i get a riv bet.

Is that really all we can hope to get here?

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Why do you need to check the turn?

Re: Fuper TPKK on dry turn fold
 

Pudge, if we c/c flop and donk why not just CR flop and give him one less card?