200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves

[brizzology]

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A squeeze is when there's a raise + 1 caller and you 3bet.

If he knew I squeezed a lot I'd HAVE to call this. But as far as I know he knows nothing about me although maybe he just assumes my squeezing range is large.

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Exactly. So he has not executed a squeeze play, though he might think you have done so.

[Etats360]

Without reads I usually call here.

[futuredoc85]

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A squeeze is when there's a raise + 1 caller and you 3bet.

If he knew I squeezed a lot I'd HAVE to call this. But as far as I know he knows nothing about me although maybe he just assumes my squeezing range is large.

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Exactly. So he has not executed a squeeze play, though he might think you have done so.

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which is the point

[brizzology]

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A squeeze is when there's a raise + 1 caller and you 3bet.

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Exactly. So he has not executed a squeeze play, though he might think you have done so.

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which is the point

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Maybe you are missing the point, probably because you are not reading carefully.

The point is that the BB's range is not likely to include JJ.

Your reponse to that original claim was "do you know what a squeeze is". You are being vague, but I assume you are saying that the BB could be squeezing here with a JJ.

That's impossible, by the definition of squeeze play. The BB is not in a squeeze situation.

OP was, and BB may think that OP is performing a squeeze. But that doesn't justify a re-squeeze with JJ. Facing a bet, a flat call, a re-raise, he would be insane to re-raise with JJ.

Please don't bother to explain why you think otherwise. Instead, just post a really quick, ambiguous, and unsubstantiated reply [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[futuredoc85]

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A squeeze is when there's a raise + 1 caller and you 3bet.

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Exactly. So he has not executed a squeeze play, though he might think you have done so.

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which is the point

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Maybe you are missing the point, probably because you are not reading carefully.

The point is that the BB's range is not likely to include JJ.

Your reponse to that original claim was "do you know what a squeeze is". You are being vague, but I assume you are saying that the BB could be squeezing here with a JJ.

That's impossible, by the definition of squeeze play. The BB is not in a squeeze situation.

OP was, and BB may think that OP is performing a squeeze. But that doesn't justify a re-squeeze with JJ. Facing a bet, a flat call, a re-raise, he would be insane to re-raise with JJ.

Please don't bother to explain why you think otherwise. Instead, just post a really quick, ambiguous, and unsubstantiated reply [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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ok ill break this down as simply as possible.

-Hero is likely squeezing with a fairly wide range in this spot because of all the dead money in the pot

-BB is an aggressive regular

-BB Absolutely can be resqueezing w/ JJ here and that would be far more likely than him calling cold w/ it since that would invite every other player in the pot to set mine.

-Given that OPs play looks like a squeeze, BB is shoving AK 100% of the time here.

-Have you ever played 1/2 or higher online?

[deaders]

I tend to think everyone is squeezing in your spot, if bb is a decent reg its a snapcall.

[Stonewalled]

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ok ill break this down as simply as possible.

-Hero is likely squeezing with a fairly wide range in this spot because of all the dead money in the pot

-BB is an aggressive regular

-BB Absolutely can be resqueezing w/ JJ here and that would be far more likely than him calling cold w/ it since that would invite every other player in the pot to set mine.

-Given that OPs play looks like a squeeze, BB is shoving AK 100% of the time here.

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Spot on IMO.

I call with QQ here.

[brizzology]

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ok ill break this down as simply as possible.

-Hero is likely squeezing with a fairly wide range in this spot because of all the dead money in the pot

-BB is an aggressive regular

-BB Absolutely can be resqueezing w/ JJ here and that would be far more likely than him calling cold w/ it since that would invite every other player in the pot to set mine.

-Given that OPs play looks like a squeeze, BB is shoving AK 100% of the time here.

-Have you ever played 1/2 or higher online?

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lol, yes, I play 6H 200NL regularly. if you're implying I don't know what I'm talking about, I don't appreciate it. Just interested to talk about this hand.

We do not know if BB is a regular according to OP.

I guess I naively still believe that "the third raise is usually aces", and don't really widen my range much more than KK+, AK here.

[2cards2come]

cmon villian isnt shoving AA or KK here. whats he trying to do, pick up the pot and force you off QQ? lol