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Old 08-23-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

20 minutes in, and I don't know anything about villain. I doubled up early with a flopped set to top pair.

Is this turn bet standard, and if so how do we act to any resistance be it a check minraise or a committal raise like villains.




Table '58622867 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: waynecoal (2760 in chips)
Seat 2: bjorns (4540 in chips)
Seat 3: goldi100 (1880 in chips)
Seat 4: RRRULA (3950 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Georgy177 (2820 in chips)
Seat 7: Einoeloclee (1640 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO (5590 in chips)
Seat 9: xenon75a (3820 in chips)
RRRULA: posts small blind 15
Georgy177: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Ac Kd]
Einoeloclee: calls 30
HERO: raises 105 to 135
xenon75a: folds
waynecoal: folds
bjorns: folds
goldi100: folds
RRRULA: folds
Georgy177: calls 105
Einoeloclee: calls 105
*** FLOP *** [8c 9h 5c]
Ecky_Z is connected
Georgy177: checks
Einoeloclee: checks
HERO: checks
*** TURN *** [8c 9h 5c] [Ks]
Georgy177: checks
Einoeloclee: checks
HERO: bets 240
Georgy177: raises 840 to 1080
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

I would bet turn also but maybe a little more. on turn i cant see doing anything besides shoving but maybe that's bad
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

shove and pray.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

as played I guess we have to be scared of 2 pair, MAYBE a set? you are only risking about half your stack with what I think is good more than 50% of the time...but I still cant come up with a hand for the villan to just call out of the bb but has us beat...88,99, 89? 10 J could be likely and is hoping you fold but if not they have outs...you have not shown a lot of stregnth this hand...BUT have shown AK to be pretty likely...

cliff notes...I reluctantly call or shove...
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

for those in the shove and pray camp what hand range do you put villain on?
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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i agree!
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

edit: i thought u had nut flush draw for some reason....hmm it gets closer then, not sure what i do..
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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This is what I was trying to say...but somehow that led me to still call...is that crazy (stupid?)...I also look at the result IF I lose I still have my starting stack at 15-30...is this also a bad way to look at things...???
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

does anyone here not bet this turn? I also think my bet size should have been more in the 280-340 range.
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