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Mench 08-23-2007 01:20 PM

Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
20 minutes in, and I don't know anything about villain. I doubled up early with a flopped set to top pair.

Is this turn bet standard, and if so how do we act to any resistance be it a check minraise or a committal raise like villains.




Table '58622867 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: waynecoal (2760 in chips)
Seat 2: bjorns (4540 in chips)
Seat 3: goldi100 (1880 in chips)
Seat 4: RRRULA (3950 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Georgy177 (2820 in chips)
Seat 7: Einoeloclee (1640 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO (5590 in chips)
Seat 9: xenon75a (3820 in chips)
RRRULA: posts small blind 15
Georgy177: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Ac Kd]
Einoeloclee: calls 30
HERO: raises 105 to 135
xenon75a: folds
waynecoal: folds
bjorns: folds
goldi100: folds
RRRULA: folds
Georgy177: calls 105
Einoeloclee: calls 105
*** FLOP *** [8c 9h 5c]
Ecky_Z is connected
Georgy177: checks
Einoeloclee: checks
HERO: checks
*** TURN *** [8c 9h 5c] [Ks]
Georgy177: checks
Einoeloclee: checks
HERO: bets 240
Georgy177: raises 840 to 1080

djk123 08-23-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
I would bet turn also but maybe a little more. on turn i cant see doing anything besides shoving but maybe that's bad

ZJ123 08-23-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
shove and pray.

Dawg24 08-23-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
as played I guess we have to be scared of 2 pair, MAYBE a set? you are only risking about half your stack with what I think is good more than 50% of the time...but I still cant come up with a hand for the villan to just call out of the bb but has us beat...88,99, 89? 10 J could be likely and is hoping you fold but if not they have outs...you have not shown a lot of stregnth this hand...BUT have shown AK to be pretty likely...

cliff notes...I reluctantly call or shove...

Mench 08-23-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
for those in the shove and pray camp what hand range do you put villain on?

shaundeeb 08-23-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

Exitonly 08-23-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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i agree!

ZJ123 08-23-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
edit: i thought u had nut flush draw for some reason....hmm it gets closer then, not sure what i do..

Dawg24 08-23-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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This is what I was trying to say...but somehow that led me to still call...is that crazy (stupid?)...I also look at the result IF I lose I still have my starting stack at 15-30...is this also a bad way to look at things...???

Mench 08-23-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot
 
does anyone here not bet this turn? I also think my bet size should have been more in the 280-340 range.


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