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11-19-2007, 11:47 PM
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Re: 50NL: AK Flop Decision 40bb Effective Stacks
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If you are shoving, you realize that there isn't a single pocket pair that he folds right? [/ QUOTE ]Do you think average 50nl opponent will shove if checked to in this spot? With ATC he called with PF? Like AQ, KQ, AJ, JT, etc. This is a pretty bad overcall unless he has Aces. If he's calling all pairs I think he also calls any type of suited broadway, AK, AQ, maybe even speculative hands like suited connectors? The only "reasonable" range, i.e. he isn't totally awful, would be QQ+. Maybe you get a free card? I think checking AA in this spot is fine as well if you had that... 
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11-20-2007, 12:00 AM
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Re: 50NL: AK Flop Decision 40bb Effective Stacks
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[ QUOTE ] If you are shoving, you realize that there isn't a single pocket pair that he folds right? [/ QUOTE ]Do you think average 50nl opponent will shove if checked to in this spot? With ATC he called with PF? Like AQ, KQ, AJ, JT, etc. This is a pretty bad overcall unless he has Aces. If he's calling all pairs I think he also calls any type of suited broadway, AK, AQ, maybe even speculative hands like suited connectors? The only "reasonable" range, i.e. he isn't totally awful, would be QQ+. Maybe you get a free card? I think checking AA in this spot is fine as well if you had that... [/ QUOTE ] The point I'm trying to make is that if you are committed to get stacks in at this point, check calling is the better option b/c it allows him to bluff a worse hand. The reason I say this is b/c I can't think of a single hand that beats us that folds to a flop bet. He obviously may go ahead and call off with something like AQ if we shove, but there is a slight chance he will fold it. FWIW, I check folded the flop, but the more I thought about it the more I convinced myself that check calling would have been a decent option as well.
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11-20-2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: 50NL: AK Flop Decision 40bb Effective Stacks
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Do you think average 50nl opponent will shove if checked to in this spot? With ATC he called with PF? Like AQ, KQ, AJ, JT, etc. This is a pretty bad overcall unless he has Aces. If he's calling all pairs I think he also calls any type of suited broadway, AK, AQ, maybe even speculative hands like suited connectors? The only "reasonable" range, i.e. he isn't totally awful, would be QQ+. Maybe you get a free card? I think checking AA in this spot is fine as well if you had that... [/ QUOTE ] I think a lot of 50NL would push in this spot if checked to because they assume you missed so they get excited "oh, he missed! pot!" I think they push more often than call pushes with speculative hands. But I think AJ is the weakest hand in his range that he calls a push with and that's being optimistic.
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