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Old 06-19-2007, 08:46 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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What do you do if I check turn sabr?

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Check. If you were deeper bet/fold turn perhaps.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

What does everyone make my range here out to be? Am I betting 40 and checking turn really? If I actually do and you check you gotta know a huge river bet is coming...Do you call that? I would push the river with a bluff or a made hand because either one can look just like the other(as in a bluff could look like a made hand vice versa)..

I think fold/push on flop is best really..does anyone agree with this? I will give my reasoning later
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

Villain is TheProdigy? I doubt he leads into 4 people here with anything less than AK.
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

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What does everyone make my range here out to be?

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77, 66, 76s, KQs, KJs.

Given your description of the other villains I think you might take a flop with those hands.

AK I think you'd RR pf?
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

i dont think villain lead here 40 bux with KQ .. maybe ak but the only hand i think i can beat
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:05 PM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

89 should be in that range. I am more likely to donk out and get some bluff equity with 89, then the other hands there. Woops saw the post about 2 donks in the hand, that makes 89 much more unlikely.

I would make his range 67,66,77,89,k6,k7,kk,ak. A 2p2'er doesn't donk out with KQ there. He is prob betting for value here agains't 2 donk who call too much.

In the heat of the moment I probably raise, then fold to a push here, but calling and then folding turn is prob better.
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:35 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

What about the player after hero who flat-called? Does that affect hero's action? (Just trying to learn from you guys.)
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

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What does everyone make my range here out to be?

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77, 66, 76s, KQs, KJs.

Given your description of the other villains I think you might take a flop with those hands.

AK I think you'd RR pf?

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I would think some suited connectors and PP's are possible.
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Old 06-20-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

Folding this flop is soo exploitable i dont even want to know what range youd find a call here with jesus christ. kkk i guess

also if hes gonna limp call like that he has to bluff a certain percentage of the time, that k high board is decent one to lead at.
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Old 06-20-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: nl 200 AA.. villain lead

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Folding this flop is soo exploitable i dont even want to know what range youd find a call here with jesus christ. kkk i guess

also if hes gonna limp call like that he has to bluff a certain percentage of the time, that k high board is decent one to lead at.

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He didn't limp/call. He overcalled in the big blind. I am not saying that his range isn't only a set, but I don't think he is going to throw a pure bluff into 4 players OOP here. However, he may occasionally through in a semi-bluff since he knows that our Hero will put him on a strong hand.
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