JJ in 3-bet pot. interesting river spot.

[Andykay]

People rarely have the balls to bluff the river in a 3bet pot. If he has AK, he can't feel like he's getting three streets of value. What does he think you're calling with? KJ?

Looks like a straight up value bet with AK, or maybe even AQ if he hand reads well.

-Andy

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who was villian here?

[Fat Nicky]

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who was villian here?

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scrath1

[pineapple888]

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if villain is any good, he's only showing up with AK or better. this would be a dumb bluff

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my line is really weak to him though, no?

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Your line is JJ specifically to him, in all likelihood. But so what. What is he bluffing with that you beat, often enough to compensate for when you are behind?

[Some9]

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if villain is any good, he's only showing up with AK or better. this would be a dumb bluff

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If everyone here is saying fold, it can't be THAT dumb.

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[loosbastard]

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if villain is any good, he's only showing up with AK or better. this would be a dumb bluff

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If everyone here is saying fold, it can't be THAT dumb.

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Not sure what's to understand. How can it be a "dumb bluff" if everybody wants to fold?

[yad]

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if villain is any good, he's only showing up with AK or better. this would be a dumb bluff

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perhaps I'm no good, but I take villain's line with garbage all the time, and they fold fold fold.

[pineapple888]

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if villain is any good, he's only showing up with AK or better. this would be a dumb bluff

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If everyone here is saying fold, it can't be THAT dumb.

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Not sure what's to understand. How can it be a "dumb bluff" if everybody wants to fold?

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It could actually be a very good bluff with some random SC he decided to raise with. But that doesn't help Hero because it's too thin to call based on that.

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he needs to be bluffing ~30% of the time? thoughts?

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But that doesn't help Hero because it's too thin to call based on that.

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I'm not saying I disagree...just pointing out some logical inconsistencies going on in this thread.