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08-29-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
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I like to check raise here because it looks like a draw. I also check raise alot of my draws when I'm oop so check raising is almost my default line here. [/ QUOTE ] c/r a good (8+ out) draw here is so bad. 
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#12
08-29-2007, 10:18 AM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
Instead of making the condescending one line responses that you are getting so good at it would be more constructive if you elaborated on your thoughts.
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#13
08-29-2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
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[ QUOTE ] I like to check raise here because it looks like a draw. I also check raise alot of my draws when I'm oop so check raising is almost my default line here. [/ QUOTE ] c/r a good (8+ out) draw here is so bad. [/ QUOTE ] OK, so you think check calling and then coming alive when you hit the flush is better? Good luck getting paid off.
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#14
08-29-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
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[ QUOTE ] I like to check raise here because it looks like a draw. I also check raise alot of my draws when I'm oop so check raising is almost my default line here. [/ QUOTE ] c/r a good (8+ out) draw here is so bad. [/ QUOTE ] you post (13000+) so bad
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#15
08-29-2007, 02:23 PM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
the reason check raising a good draw here is terrible is because then the villain gets a chance to shut us out of the hand by shoving or making us get it in as a 2:1 underdog for 200 bbs. common sense no? stacks are deep enough that there are implied odds if we hit instead of check raising and eiter hoping for opponent to fold or praying we hit on the turn since we'll have a psb left to play for if opponent calls the cr.
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#16
08-29-2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
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[ QUOTE ] I like to check raise here because it looks like a draw. I also check raise alot of my draws when I'm oop so check raising is almost my default line here. [/ QUOTE ] c/r a good (8+ out) draw here is so bad. [/ QUOTE ] [ ] Made meaningful contribution to thread. [ QUOTE ] the reason check raising a good draw here is terrible is because then the villain gets a chance to shut us out of the hand by shoving or making us get it in as a 2:1 underdog for 200 bbs. common sense no? stacks are deep enough that there are implied odds if we hit instead of check raising and eiter hoping for opponent to fold or praying we hit on the turn since we'll have a psb left to play for if opponent calls the cr. [/ QUOTE ] A+ tyvm
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#18
08-29-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb de
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the title of this thread makes me sad [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] yea, i have said many times that i suck at poker...i ended up lead/3betting all in and villain had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], i don't have to tell you what the turn was. gg me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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#20
08-29-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: decided to get tricky w/AA against a good TAG - bvb, oop, 175bb deep
What size of pot are you looking to win? i like a check-call lead, although you might not be maximizing value with this if your opponent was going to keep on bluffing. nonetheless, by check-call-leading, you win money from a lot of inferior hands that would have folded on the flop had you bet out, while protecting your hand from draws that might opt to take the free card if you check the turn. also, if you check-raise the flop, on that kind of board, you are going to get called alot by draws, and you are out of position against a tough player with one pair in a quickly escalating pot due to your check-raise.
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