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Old 06-26-2007, 10:21 AM
johnnyknish johnnyknish is offline
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

i have to agree with santiago i don't get the early level gamble i just think there's so many better spots that we canget our money in. granted if we win we have a monster stack, but on the other hand we could end up with a whoppin t300 left....i just don;t see the point your def beat at this point and like was stated before some of your outs may be gone
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:37 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

Some of you are putting $16s villains on ranges that are waaaay too small. Also you have to consider how much money is in the pot. The first time around it is likely that we have 1 or 2 overcards and the nut flush draw with some amount of FE. After the shove and the call while its fairly likely we have lost our overcards as outs (not guaranteed) we now have the flush draw in a huge pot making it correct to call.

FWIW they had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and while thats probably somewhat rare to see and the J5 wouldn't be included in my ranges for them you would be suprised at what you see in these spots sometimes.

Oh and yes, J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] DID hit the 7 and win this pot.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:00 AM
santiagoz santiagoz is offline
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

I think that you will probably have better situations to put your money.
Donīt agree that our greater edge in stts is on the large blinds/ buble?

PS.: Sorry, english isnīt my main language.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:37 AM
empyrium empyrium is offline
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

i dont think you can count your 2 overcards as outs here, it sure looks like one of them has hit a set or 2pair.
and i wouldnt call an all in with just a flushdraw.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:18 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

Anyone saying to fold needs to take a look at the odds we are getting with all this money in the pot. I think its really bad to fold at any point here.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:13 PM
RRizGod RRizGod is offline
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

I think you played the hand fine. You got the nut draw and like you said people play like idiots at this level. An A or J may also be an out.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

I would bet this flop.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: $16s - 15/30, AJs flush draw on a low flop

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