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#1
08-10-2007, 10:02 AM
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Standard folds?
Villian 21/10/0.26 over 36 hands....
I think a can safely fold on this flop, right? Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $5/$10 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: 1SB returned to SB. Results: Final pot: 3BB Villain: 72/20/0.62 notes: cap KJs, silly 3 barrel bluff Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $5/$10 4 players Converter Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Button. Results: Final pot: 3.25BB I have third pair, a draw to two pair and straight and Villian plays weird. Calldown is the play? 
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#4
08-10-2007, 10:18 AM
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Re: Standard folds?
4-bet/cap the preflop action in hand 1 because a) you may have the better hand, and b) this gives you the best chance of leading on the flop. You need to flop a set or make him fold, IMO, unless he'll call down with a big ace.
In hand 2, I would 3-bet preflop and/or lead on the flop. Given the preflop action, I think you played fine after the flop in hand 1...
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#7
08-10-2007, 10:28 AM
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Re: Standard folds?
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in hand 1 I will take a look at the turn, we still beat a lot of SB defense hands [/ QUOTE ] Ya. I will call the flop and try to figure out whether to fold the turn or fold the river. I am not calling down a 3-barrel. Bet if checked to on the turn obviously
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#8
08-10-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: Standard folds?
1. Sure, the board is coordinated but the cards is not really likely to have hit his 3-betting range. Think i peel this flop and calldown a none A, K, or Q without a reed.
But the flip side to this is that you don't really know were you are in the hand and it's a RIO situation. 2. Calldown. With his silly bluffs he probably bets a lot of hands u beat on the turn. If he's not a retard is this a standard fold?
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#9
08-10-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Standard folds?
I don't really see what you beat on this turn in hand 2. A high? He's not retarded preflop is he? A pf raise of 20% is not that bad and that range has you creamed.
The pot is also just 3.25 bb, hardly worth risking 2 bb to win 4.25 in this spot?
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#10
08-10-2007, 11:02 AM
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Re: Standard folds?
I can't fault you for folding either of these spots as the RIO are pretty bad and they are marginal at best (so obv high variance). That being said I do prefer to CAP hand #1 against this type of player because I am more likely to be able to overrep my hand and get him to check fold a lot of dangerous flops that don't hit him. On a lot of hands when the flop comes down A or K high he is folding to your c-bet if he hasn't paired so you can knock out his 6 out overcard draws.
hand #2 is super villain dependent, but on the turn assuming you have somewhere between 6-9 outs you still aren't getting odds to call if you have to improve. And if you call the turn you have to call the river so it is a pretty bad RIO spot. I think I probably just fold here, and if he bluffed me out with crap so be it.
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