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Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
Villain is 13/2 after 50 hands, but his stats didnīt influence my decision.
PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP3 ($22.30) CO ($8) Button ($20.10) SB ($15.90) Hero ($23.15) UTG ($5.90) UTG+1 ($24) MP1 ($20.85) MP2 ($42.85) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50. Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>... You like it ? |
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
fold. You have middle pair and a really bad draw. You're basically hoping to hit a Jack and against somebody that tight preflop he may have AK anyways. You're also going to get 3 bet regardless of what he has a ton of the time.
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
Would it help for me to add that J9s (particularly diamonds) has mythical status in our home games and seems to win pots almost regardless of how badly you play it?! With friends, and with $60 each and several beers in front of us, I'd be all-in preflop!
In the real world, I think the call pre-flop is cool, but I couldn't fold it quickly enough post-flop. The reasons for doing that (ie you have a weak hand on a nasty board and several opponents) have already been emphasised by others. |
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
Sorry, no. I don't like the PF call at all. On the flop: villain is 13/2 so he is pretty nitty, right? If he raises PF and CBs on the flop I'd give him credit for a hand.
What kind of hand could he have that fits into his (narrow) PF raise range and not has you crushed and / or is good enough to continue with? I guess I wouldn't even play my donkey end of the straight draw cause he could have you easily dominated... |
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
pf is fine but fold the flop
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
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I don't like the PF call at all. [/ QUOTE ] Why? It's really cheap to call and Villain is a super nit. We stack this guy a ton when we hit big and we lose nothing when we miss / hit one pair. EDIT: Oh wait? Who's Villain, flop bettor or preflop raiser? |
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
50 hands isnt a great sample, the read that your looking for is "nitty but stacks off with overpairs" (fairly common btw).
Also you would prefer to be multiway and more important - in position to make this call pre-flop. Instafold the flop, we are ahead of nothing and could easily get stacked even if we hit a straight/2 pair/trips. |
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
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[ QUOTE ] I don't like the PF call at all. [/ QUOTE ] Why? It's really cheap to call and Villain is a super nit. We stack this guy a ton when we hit big and we lose nothing when we miss / hit one pair. EDIT: Oh wait? Who's Villain, flop bettor or preflop raiser? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but with only one villain in the hand I'd rather raise here if I decide to play this hand... Personal taste I guess... Edit: But with villain being so nitty, he might come over the top with a premium hand...Hm, let's just cut out my opinion about the PF play and say that I don't like the post flop play. Sorry, somehow I can't really write good responses today... |
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
Guys, it's 4 way against (presumeably) bad players. It's 2 big blinds for us to call, we have a suited connector, and we have the best relative position AND we close the action. This is a must-call preflop.
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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
fold flop!
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