Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

Villain is 13/2 after 50 hands, but his stats didn´t influence my decision.

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MP3 ($22.30)
CO ($8)
Button ($20.10)
SB ($15.90)
Hero ($23.15)
UTG ($5.90)
UTG+1 ($24)
MP1 ($20.85)
MP2 ($42.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>...



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Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

fold. You have middle pair and a really bad draw. You're basically hoping to hit a Jack and against somebody that tight preflop he may have AK anyways. You're also going to get 3 bet regardless of what he has a ton of the time.

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

Sorry, no. I don't like the PF call at all. On the flop: villain is 13/2 so he is pretty nitty, right? If he raises PF and CBs on the flop I'd give him credit for a hand.
What kind of hand could he have that fits into his (narrow) PF raise range and not has you crushed and / or is good enough to continue with? I guess I wouldn't even play my donkey end of the straight draw cause he could have you easily dominated...

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

pf is fine but fold the flop

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

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I don't like the PF call at all.

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Why? It's really cheap to call and Villain is a super nit. We stack this guy a ton when we hit big and we lose nothing when we miss / hit one pair.

EDIT: Oh wait? Who's Villain, flop bettor or preflop raiser?

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

50 hands isnt a great sample, the read that your looking for is "nitty but stacks off with overpairs" (fairly common btw).

Also you would prefer to be multiway and more important - in position to make this call pre-flop.

Instafold the flop, we are ahead of nothing and could easily get stacked even if we hit a straight/2 pair/trips.

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

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I don't like the PF call at all.

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Why? It's really cheap to call and Villain is a super nit. We stack this guy a ton when we hit big and we lose nothing when we miss / hit one pair.

EDIT: Oh wait? Who's Villain, flop bettor or preflop raiser?

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Yeah, but with only one villain in the hand I'd rather raise here if I decide to play this hand...
Personal taste I guess...

Edit: But with villain being so nitty, he might come over the top with a premium hand...Hm, let's just cut out my opinion about the PF play and say that I don't like the post flop play. Sorry, somehow I can't really write good responses today...

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

Guys, it's 4 way against (presumeably) bad players. It's 2 big blinds for us to call, we have a suited connector, and we have the best relative position AND we close the action. This is a must-call preflop.

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

fold flop!

Re: Right play with J9s in BB ? NL25
 

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Guys, it's 4 way against (presumeably) bad players. It's 2 big blinds for us to call, we have a suited connector, and we have the best relative position AND we close the action. This is a must-call preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]If you don't know what to do on this flop I'd argue that it's a "must call".