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11-10-2007, 10:17 AM
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$22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t30/t60 8 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t1160 UTG+1: t1820 Hero: t5770 MP2: t3520 CO: t1900 Button: t1790 SB: t2040 BB: t2000 Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t240</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t420</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls t180 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t750)</font>. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t930, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets t660</font>, Hero folds Just one hand earlier I had AA and won a big pot three-handed. Fairly readless. First time with villain. I have not seen him play a hand so far. 
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#2
11-10-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: $22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
Then how did villian mange to get his stack to ~t3500 ?
This is a tough spot but i really think you should not be readless here. With a read you could maybe reshove/3-Bet this Pre as u are OOP for the rest hand. Flop You are behind everything except AK on that flop but you do have outs. Considering both have deep stacks I do not think it would be $EV to proceed at this point as you are going to be playing for stacks here.
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#3
11-10-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: $22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
How can you fold this? Std push, you have 10 outs plus backdoor vs. KK/AA, you haven't played with villain before so his range is wider than that...
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#4
11-10-2007, 10:41 AM
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Re: $22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
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Then how did villian mange to get his stack to ~t3500 ? This is a tough spot but i really think you should not be readless here. [/ QUOTE ] IŽd prefer not being readless I can assure you. But it is as it is. I have no idea how villain acquired the stack which is not uncommon when multi-tabling IMO. I did not even have VPIP and PFR on him at that time.
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#5
11-10-2007, 10:58 AM
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Re: $22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
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How can you fold this? Std push, you have 10 outs plus backdoor vs. KK/AA, you haven't played with villain before so his range is wider than that... [/ QUOTE ] You are also now behind 99,TT,JJ as well on that flop. You need more then 51% equity in this spot if called. With all the outs u do have it does not make up the short fall. For this to be good villian has to fold 50% or more against your shove.
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#8
11-10-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: $22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
i am playing those 22$ sngs too on party - normally i shove here preflop after the reraise - as played no way i fold on the flop - too often the party guys play ak, aq, aj, at or underpairs that way
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#9
11-10-2007, 02:12 PM
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Re: $22 QQ reraised, JT9 flop
I would have shoved preflop as well, 3rd best hand in the game and he'll probably call, and if he doesn't, then you pick up some chips anyway.
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