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Old 10-16-2007, 12:32 PM
johnnycakes johnnycakes is offline
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Default Basic [censored]: Holding pretty good pair, facing 3-bet PF

I hate all my options in these situations.

Early in sessions, no super reads.

I don't like 4-betting PF.

I don't like calling and C/F flop.

I don't like calling and C/R a "safe" flop.

Basically, I'm calling for a set...which sucks too.



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HAND #1
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vs 29/19/1.3 over 95

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $198
BB: $156.40
UTG: $172.25
Hero (MP): $209.05
CO: $122.15
BTN: $251.75

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, UTG folds, Hero ???



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HAND #2
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vs 16/14/4.6 over 432
strikes me as v v aggressive PF and on flop.


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Hero (CO): $327
BTN: $348.35
SB: $118.20
BB: $207.25
UTG: $72.45

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:34 PM
thac thac is offline
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Default Re: Basic [censored]: Holding pretty good pair, facing 3-bet PF

If you don't feel like making moves, fold I guess.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:47 PM
shandyboy shandyboy is offline
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Default Re: Basic [censored]: Holding pretty good pair, facing 3-bet PF

meh:

hand 1: i can handle a fold, villain doesnt have a full stack, and calling for set value only kinda sucks.

hand 2: effective stacks are much bigger, but ur OOP. villian is agro however, so i think u can stack him off often enough when u hit ur set. I think i call this one.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:06 PM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: Basic [censored]: Holding pretty good pair, facing 3-bet PF

Hand 1 is so close between folding and stacking off preflop that it's trivial, I think. Villain is short and has loose-aggressive preflop stats, but is 3-betting from OOP against an UTG+1 raise. It's too close to call.

Hand 2, you're over 150bb deep. Proceed with caution, but please call and take a flop.
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