too fancy for nl10?

hoyasaxa · #1 10-19-2007, 02:59 PM

villains first hand at table
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($10.25)
SB ($5.20)
BB ($10)
UTG ($3.05)
MP ($14.35)
CO ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($0.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB raises to $1.1, Hero calls $0.55.

Turn: ($2.95) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $1.4, Hero calls $1.40.

River: ($5.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.75

hoyasaxa · #2 10-19-2007, 03:13 PM

basically, i have no clue what villain would play like this.
But I dont think villain has a 2, 3, or flush, and dont really think villain can call without one. Basically im reacting to a read of weakness. The problem is i think im going to get called down way too light at nl10, while this might work at, say, nl 400

finalboarder · #3 10-19-2007, 03:31 PM

Villians play has me confused too. But at 10NL and no reads you really don't know if villian is doing this with 95 and calling the river. I think that I would usually fold on the flop with my underpair to a reraise. But maybe I'm being weak.

well named · #4 10-19-2007, 03:43 PM

I'm guessing most likely villain has a 9 with an OK kicker and doesn't like the board too much.

Nevertheless, whether or not your river bet will work depends a great deal on how likely he is to lay down a one pair hand on this board. I don't think I try this without at least some read on the villain, but against someone who has shown some weak-tight tendencies this is a good spot to bluff.

Most of the time though the board isn't going to cooperate this much so I think calling the flop is -EV in general. The kind of player who is check-raising this flop without some kind of hand is not the kind of player who is check-folding this river very often

Waingro · #5 10-19-2007, 05:46 PM

I don´t get it, what did you put him on the turn? I think calling the turn against an unknown is much more spewtastic than bluffing this river. The river I don´t know really, he obviously doesn´t like his hand much but will he fold a 9? Your line doesn´t really make much sense unless you are repping a 3 and he might not believe you. My advice is don´t get to the river this way in the first place.

Sniiii · #6 10-19-2007, 05:51 PM

There's tons of players who play A-9, K-9, T-9 and alike, so I'm not sure why you're calling turn. At least I'd fold there. And definitely fold river?

SuperMxyz · #7 10-19-2007, 06:13 PM

I don't see him laying down his 9 or flush very often.

marimba man · #8 10-19-2007, 06:30 PM

So wait... You did a 2 street float followed by a bet that turns you hand into a bluff...? Oh I forgot to add that you have no read which makes this play even stranger. The river bet is never good at any level imo.

Nologo · #9 10-19-2007, 06:52 PM

Pretty much anything but pure value betting is too fancy for 10nl.