NL 100 So i decided to make a stand.. really bad?

[GTSamIAm]

If you keep getting 3-bet light, you should probably leave the table. And if you plan on shoving this hand, you should consider shoving it preflop along with all your other Ax's to a 3-bet if you want to take a stand.

I like the comment someone else made about its not what you have, its what the opponent has. Most players won't fold an overpair in this spot. And using combinatorics and the fact you're getting 3-bet light, it's a little more likely your opponent has a pair he's not folding to something like AK. 16 AK, 6 for each pair; do the math.

[Some9]

hero has plenty of equity and folds out maybe half of villains range. I like.

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hero has plenty of equity and folds out maybe half of villains range. I like.

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lol

[Dire]

This is +EV. You have 7 outs + backdoor when called. So you only need around 2.5:1. If he open shoved the flop you'd be getting 2.33:1. So you don't need much FE for this to be +EV. I definitely don't think you're folding out half of villain's range, but even if he only folds unpaired overcards you show a profit.

So, it's fine.

[kaby]

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hero has plenty of equity and folds out maybe half of villains range. I like.

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fold pf, but once you call i agree with this

gutshot + almost always an overcard + bd flush


btw i wouldn't be suprised if this (once you call pf which is obv -ev) would be +ev vs a 3betting range of TT+/AQ+ let alone a wider range with more unpaired cards on this flop

[Unknown Soldier]

bad hand to 4b with

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bad hand to 4b with

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is it also a bad hand to call a 3bet?

[Unknown Soldier]

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bad hand to 4b with

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is it also a bad hand to call a 3bet?

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nah this is fine. would prefer btn/co, but go with your read




i think you might be priced in to call which is why i dont like 4b and would rather call, plus it has some decent value to it. i'd much rather have 86o if i'm 4b

[Dire]

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i think you might be priced in to call which is why i dont like 4b and would rather call, plus it has some decent value to it. i'd much rather have 86o if i'm 4b

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A decent chunk of his 5-bet shoving range is going to be AK/AQ stuff - when 86 actually has more value than hero's hand. I mean against JJ-AA,AK,AQ as his 5-bet range, 86 has 29%, a3 has 30%. Give him a range of QQ-AA,AK,AQ and 86 actually has more equity than a3s.

[Dire]

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bad hand to 4b with

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is it also a bad hand to call a 3bet?

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IMO - it's a bad hand to call a 3bet with primarily if you're folding flops like this. This is a much much more favorable flop than an ace high flop for this hand.