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Old 04-13-2007, 02:03 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

Main villain is dariominieri or whatever. I'm sure he's a lot of people's arch nemesis bec he plays like 35/30 or something preflop which gets him into tangles with everybody.

But we've been going at it pretty hard today for like an hour or two and have played several big pots. I stacked him when I reraised KQ and called his push on a river K to beat his flopped mid pair. Then he stacked me when he flopped trips after calling a reraise with 67s against my overpair. Then I stacked him when I flopped a straight against his set. So now we're onto this hand.

I was definitely going to push a blank river. I don't know what I would have done if he had pushed a blank river. I was probably folding if he pushed a scary river. What do I do on THIS river? I don't want to value stack myself, but I also don't want to leave a lot of value on the table. So do I bet or not?

(P.S. I know everyone bets the flop every time. I don't. Get over it.)

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1000
UTG+1: $3087.75
TWP: $1040
Button: $2353.65
SB: $1117
BB: $2670

Pre-flop: (6 players) TWP is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $40</font>, UTG+1 folds, TWP calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($130, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, TWP checks.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($130, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $110</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">TWP raises to $350</font>, SB calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($830, 2 players)
SB checks, TWP...?
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:05 PM
MasterLJ MasterLJ is offline
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

OK, I'm over not betting flop. I just can't see betting the river against a tricky opponent as being profitable. I check behind.
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

not betting the flop is really really bad.

seems like a check, betting can either be marginal or very bad. Checking can either be marginal or very good....
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

Why no flop bet?
I shove the river.
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

check because a 9 is oesd and he could be thinking you are bluffing and c/c with the str8.
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:24 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

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Why no flop bet?
I shove the river.

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Because I wanted to get into the precise situation I got into where he would never put me on a set so I could bust up a small flush if I boated up or two pair if I didn't.

And why do you shove? Aren't you afraid that he's going to c/c a better but non-nut hand like a straight or a small flush? If he felt he were good on the turn, wouldn't he have pushed there?
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

any reasonable bet ur making committs u to calling a CR shove if hes as tricky as is being said then just check behind if u think hes just looking to make a hero call either value bet ~450 or just value shove and sigh if he has a nine
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

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Why no flop bet?
I shove the river.

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Because I wanted to get into the precise situation I got into where he would never put me on a set so I could bust up a small flush if I boated up or two pair if I didn't.

And why do you shove? Aren't you afraid that he's going to c/c a better but non-nut hand like a straight or a small flush? If he felt he were good on the turn, wouldn't he have pushed there?

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just putting someone on flopping a flush just because it is a hand that beats yours seems kind of silly to me.

so you are value checking this flop?
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Old 04-14-2007, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

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Why no flop bet?
I shove the river.

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Old 04-14-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against my new arch nemesis

your hand looks like K-xc, JJ or KQ no clubs maybe even as bad as AJ no clubs....

I don't really see what those betting the river expect vill to payoff with. He may be laggy but he is probably good.

I think your line is extremely strong as you are unafraid of giving a free card on the flop and if you say "don't you ever bluff?" then you must realise that he can just bet/call a flush on the turn if that is the case.
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