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Old 07-22-2007, 11:49 AM
Mr.Poker Mr.Poker is offline
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

I think this is a fold.

BB still has 10BBs after posting which isnt THAT short for late stages and you are often dominated with KQ to this push.

If he is slightly shorter, then this becomes a simple call based on odds.

Some of the ranges being assigned are way too wide IMO for the shover.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

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I think you need at least 2 to 1 for a race situation...easy fold

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WTF?

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I was thinking that exact thing. If we knew it was a race, then it's an easy call. But we don't know that.

I put the reraiser's range at:
Hands we coinflip with
Hands that dominate us

There are almost no hands he's pushing here that we dominate. This is not a resteal vs Button raise situation. Unless he's an idiot, he's not shoving over an MP raise with garbage.

I think too much of his range has us dominated to call unless he were shorter and we got better odds.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:18 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

The range given is way too loose imo.

The mentality about 2 to 1 isn't what most people think. 2 to 1 is a rough estimate of our odds against the range of hands that will jam back.

I like to hold true to that UNLESS I'm a huge dominating stack, or if I'm trying to become table captain, where calling and winning the hand gives me a big stack and a "don't push me around" ego vs folding to aggression giving me a weak image.


Here, I think I'm calling a lot here though....the range I'd put him on is closer to this:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.362% 55.02% 02.35% 2509656720 106969422.00 { 22+, A6s+, KTs+, QTs+, A6o+, KQo, QJo }
Hand 1: 42.638% 40.29% 02.35% 1837982292 106969422.00 { KQo }
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:35 PM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

This is a rather tough laydown to make. I probably call this more often than not, though it's a pretty borderline decision.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

If there are antes snapcall, its still probably a call, but if hes super tight w/ no antes, might be a fold
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