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#1
10-26-2007, 02:36 PM
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400NL Turn decision with the nuts
Villain is a TAG regular.
Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BB: $534.20 UTG: $665.60 UTG+1: $308.40 MP1: $568 MP2: $341.60 CO: $468.65 Hero (BTN): $455.50 SB: $774.30 Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN) 5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15</font>, SB folds, BB calls $11 Flop: ($32) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, BB calls $25 Turn: ($82) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $68</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $136</font>, <font color="red">Hero calls and shoves the river or just shoves now?</font> 
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#2
10-26-2007, 02:38 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
If you call do you fold if the board pairs?
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#3
10-26-2007, 02:41 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
I think calling is a little better. I really doubt he has a set here and can't really see him calling with much less.
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#4
10-26-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
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If you call do you fold if the board pairs? [/ QUOTE ] Meh, probably not because the board is too coordinated for me to see him taking this line with a set. Actually, what kind of hand takes this line except for a bluff?
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#5
10-26-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
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I think calling is a little better. I really doubt he has a set here and can't really see him calling with much less. [/ QUOTE ] I'm curious as to why you don't think he has a set. Is it because of the flop check call?
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#6
10-26-2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
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[ QUOTE ] I think calling is a little better. I really doubt he has a set here and can't really see him calling with much less. [/ QUOTE ] I'm curious as to why you don't think he has a set. Is it because of the flop check call? [/ QUOTE ] First off, preflop doesn't align with a set too well. Then he c/c a flop with a very dangerous board and checks the turn also. It just doesn't make sense. I really don't think he can play a single good made hand this way. If he has a made hand then he's trying to buy a free SD imo.
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#7
10-26-2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
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[ QUOTE ] I think calling is a little better. I really doubt he has a set here and can't really see him calling with much less. [/ QUOTE ] I'm curious as to why you don't think he has a set. Is it because of the flop check call? [/ QUOTE ] Flop c/c + turn c/minraise on a super-coordinated board that's really likely to have hit me. I'm likely to check the turn with a lot of straight draws and marginal made hands, and his c/minraise gives good odds for any draw to continue. If he plays a set like this that makes me super happy.
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#9
10-26-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: Turn decision with the nuts
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[ QUOTE ] If he has a made hand then he's trying to buy a free SD imo. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty tough to do OOP, no? [/ QUOTE ] no, I agree. I didn't say that its not a retarded line, but some villains will take it with say KJ in hopes that you'll fold or call and check behind on the river. I wouldn't consider taking this line myself, but I've seen enough weird [censored], even from good regs, to know that its possible.
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