$60 - open button limping L7

Little John · #1 11-09-2007, 02:16 PM

i dont know, pushing seemed light, raise/folding seemed like a waste because i was gonna be priced in if bb pushed. sb/bb are what i would call new winning regulars at the 60's. the are both on the aggro side.

also, the converer got messed up. this is L7 with a 25 chips ante.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t1605)
MP1 (t1640)
MP2 (t1005)
CO (t1230)
Hero (t2740)
SB (t3195)
BB (t2085)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero calls t200, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (t675) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t350

TruFloridaGator · #2 11-09-2007, 02:20 PM

Mandatory bet once you limp. It's a nice pot to take so I like it a lot.

kleath · #3 11-09-2007, 03:11 PM

I hate pf, Id lean towards raising but I think if raising isnt good you should be folding. flop looks good.

Pudge714 · #4 11-09-2007, 03:27 PM

Shoving pre is probably unexploitable with antes.

MATT238 · #5 11-09-2007, 03:38 PM

Stacks look a little deep to shove. I'm raising and folding to a shove. Folding is an option too.

suzzer99 · #6 11-09-2007, 03:51 PM

Just keep in mind if you're gonna do this, you have to do it a monster every now and then.

CheeseMoney · #7 11-10-2007, 03:22 PM

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Shoving pre is probably unexploitable with antes.

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I'd think its pretty exploitable. Ran this in SNGWiz and shoving here is pretty neutral EV if you've got SB calling top 15%, BB calling same, and only overcalling like top 5%. However, 15% is pretty loose and involves calling with a lot of weak aces. If you think SB is tight and BB is loose (SB on AJ+, ATs+, 77+) and keep BB on same 15% (A8o+, A4s+, KTs+, 33+), this becomes pretty hugely +EV as a shove-- as long as SB is tight, it doesn't really matter what BB's calling range is here.

JoeSchmo · #8 11-10-2007, 04:03 PM

Yeah, shoving is usually fine here, but it's far from unexploitable.

ger664 · #9 11-09-2007, 03:57 PM

I shove this with antes in play, particulaly against Aggressive blinds.

Scotty_12 · #10 11-09-2007, 07:21 PM

I also think a preflop shove is in order vs winning regulars here - How wide do you think they would call you here? With 13% its pretty easy to push ,and i doubt they call that wide