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11-19-2007, 06:21 PM
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1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00/$2.00
MP3 ($245.25) 8/5 over 45 hands CO ($40.00) Button ($392.07) SB ($71.65) BB ($200.00) (Hero) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] MP3 calls $2.00, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.00, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $32.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero? <font color="blue">What do you do here? I called. </font> Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $70 ) Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $52.00</font>, Hero? <font color="blue">Should I lead into him?</font> 
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#4
11-19-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
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ugh nasty. As played I would fold. I'm not sure if I'd do anything differently, it's a spot I've rarely seen [/ QUOTE ] also, i think leading is bad, you're not getting value from anything, and bluffing nothing.
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#5
11-19-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
Why not muck it preflop if you're going to c/f when you hit the overpair? - not that I think c/fing this flop is wrong, it's a nice play imo because he's basically telling you what he has. But even if you stack him every single time if you spike a Q it's still not incredibly profitable. If you're really calling just for set value here preflop it doesn't seem a good call. What if the flop brings no paintcards - like 3 5 9 rainbow - are you still c/fing - what I'm asking is if you think it's close enough for the possibility of JJ swings it to a fold. I'd like to know what more experienced players think of considering a pf fold against this super-nit. Tough hand.
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#6
11-19-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
of course, i did not call for set value only. the J is a bad card for me in two ways. first, JJ beats me, that's obvious. but second, it completely eliminates the possibility of getting called by a weaker pocket pair if I c/r.
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#7
11-19-2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
So you're going for the crai on a ragged flop. But is this guy really calling it with JJ or less? Maybe we're giving him too much credit - do you have any specific reads other than preflop stats? Although I suppose it's difficult when he plays a hand an hour.
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#10
11-19-2007, 08:08 PM
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Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
oh man this is sick, don't even mind a pf fold here. i'd fold the flop as played
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